User talk:United Planets

This is the talk page for my country Union of Everett and questions and discussion about Future World. Discuss, comment, ask questions, etc.

Future World
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Everett City
General Map

Neighborhoods & Boroughs

Street Names, Subway Station Locations

For the subways I marked the needed stations but feel free to add stations in other places where neccessary. The Presidential Security Line is the government subway that only officials can access and has no connection to the general subway system. I put where that line goes on the map. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 22:54, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

That's actually almost exactly what I had planned out, just with a few alignment differences. I didn't have a line going up the east side, and it looks like there'll need to be another or perhaps two more east-west crosstown lines. There'll have to be a short connector shuttle from the Airport rail station to the airport itsself, because existing railroad tracks are on the river side, but that's not a bad thing, and it can double as an AirTrain like thing.

Without the monorail and security lines, this is the plan for the subway itself: .Woogers (lol what hax) 22:59, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Go ahead and do what you need to do. You know what you're doing. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 17:19, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Prototype: Everett City Central Station Woogers (lol what hax) 02:05, March 5, 2010 (UTC)

I forgot that there is a fusion power facility north of the city passed 100th Street. There should be something going there I would suppose. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 06:15, March 8, 2010 (UTC)

Starting again
Hi, I have been playing here some time ago with a nation called Baltic Union. I'm thinking in playing again FW if you are agree and I noticed that the territories I used are now being used by another nation so I have to think in another ones.

It could be fine to develop my ancient idea of The Spanish Second Civil War and use one of the new nations but maybe they are better to play as "second" nations. I'm sorry... but I also want to play with a "power" :) Anyway, as this is FW maybe I could develop a story to become them, at least, regional powers. :) I´d like to use a "Greater Basque Country" (it wont be the nation name) taking parts of Spain and France and maybe with some colonies abroad that could be explained in terms of basque immigrants taking control of cities or regions located in "unstructurated" nations with the support of the metropolis or even third nations.

Moreover, the possibility of playing with a great nation like France (which I think is available) is also very attractive.

Other idea could be to make a little hole in USSR (if everybody is agree) and develop a new nation occupying the "real" region called

What do (UP and the other players) recomend me?

--BIPU 23:32, March 12, 2012 (UTC)

I don't think Timemaster would ever allow it. But, you can always try! -Sunkist- 01:12, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Me too... it was only a mad idea!!!!! What about the other two??? --BIPU 01:32, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I'd say go with France! We've always needed a France. -Sunkist- 01:36, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

If you are agree with me rejoining, by the moment I prefer a "new" country more that a real one. I have been thinking in a good way to develop the Basque Country and I will start the Republic of Euskadi. However, I want to forget my idea of The Spanish Second Civil War and even delete the page if you are agree. I think that in order to make a strong nation, Euskadi should be formed at the end of the WWII. This way I could explain the development of the country, the extension taking parts of north Spain and southwest France and even the owning of some ancient french overseas territories. We should work together in setting the position that Euskadi took in the FW wars. This could explain even new overseas territories.

What do you think??--BIPU 11:32, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead. Welcome back. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 12:37, March 13, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to consult you some things:
 * I dont know the mechanics of adding templates, could you (or anybody else) explain me how to do it? I want to add a wiki template called "Infobox legistature"
 * We have talked some days ago about "Saint Pierre and Mikelon" are Everetty territories. I have tried to give you some reasons (I did it in my talk page) becouse it would be better (specially for me..lol) to have St Pierre in Euskadi. There are a number of historican and cultural reasons, but the most important "in game" reason could be that St Pierre is not an Everett core territorie and I suppose it is not capital for you or your history to change this matter. Having a piece of another nation near another could enrich the game and the RP. Anyway... all I can do is beg for you to consider that!!!!! :) :)
 * I have read about the new points system to manage nations. With this system, Euskadi could be a 2 points nation so I still remain four points to spend. Is still allowed to reserve a nation for a while? I would like to make a reserve (I want a 3 point nation lol) but my idea is to give it only one day to develop the very very basics and then delay the development for two or three weeks in order to complete at least 60% of my planned Euskadi development.

Thank you --BIPU 11:32, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

Go ahead and come up with your idea for your major nation. You can reserve the territory for a month. I also don't want to get rid of Saint Pierre & Miquelon. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 16:20, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Thank you. I will do it tonight (here) but I still have some doubts about my major nation... Britain?? (It is open now I think), France?... Germany? I will think on it the next hours while watching football with my son!!! lol


 * And about St Pierre... think that you will allways have a "separatist" group asking for independence in the future :) :) :) Seriously... Is there any other small island to take in the North Atlantic?? --BIPU 18:57, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'll just leave this here (go into edit mode or just click here). -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 11:42, March 17, 2012 (UTC)


 * Thank you very much!!--BIPU 18:57, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

I'll start with Deutsche Demokratische Republik (German Democratic Republic). At the moment I will develop only the basics to define the nation. I hope to advance in the development of Euskadi before I fully working on DDR. Anyway, I hope that within a month DDR will be fully operational and we will have a good RP. DDR is composed by East Germany + Schleswig-Holstein west state. Poland, Czech Republic and Slovakia are part of DDR too. DDR will have too african protectorates: (my idea is let them almost independent puppets but with military an economic presence) Togoland (Togo) and German East Africa.

If nobody has problems with it I will start my new communist project. :)

I take this opportunity to tell you that we have to rewrite the recent history of FW (specially WWIII) to conform to the new national reality in the game and specially in Europe, all the nations have to agree on the basis of the recent history and to set the way to further national developments. --BIPU 23:38, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

I don't mind rewriting European History, as Skandinavia's history depends on small European factors. The nations composing Skandinavia before the Treaty of Stockholm did not join any of the European Communities, but instead sought to rely on each other after WWII. Sweden proposed the Treaty of Stockholm at the height of the Cold War, and it was ratified by all current parties completely in 1983. The European Communities have to exist to 1973, when Denmark choose to not join any of them, followed by all Nordic states who choose to rely on the Nordic Council instead. The rest is written, so you can expand on those principles. Synthic 00:13, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

No, all history has to be rewritten. DDR implies normal Germany never existed, so, a lot of things will be different. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:31, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Well... It is not totally true. "Normal" Germany exists as "Western Germany". Remember that I'm not using "all" Germany in my nation becouse I want a "Western German" to RP. I only take a "western" state (Schleswig-Holstein) becouse I need to reach the North Sea without bordering Jutland, which can be an "hostile" territory. Nevertheless, Western Germany still maintain a big potential and is called to be one of the leading nations of western Europe and the core (alongside with France) of the European Union. Think that the reunification was in 1990 and European Union had 30 years in that time. --BIPU 17:10, March 19, 2012 (UTC)

Where art thou thy Prinsesse?
Don't worry, she's been kidnapped by crazy Christian supremacist who are demanding that Skandinavia rid themselves of Islam. They only plan to ransom her for some B/S laws, and she is located in a warehouse in Miami. You can find her in a few days. Synthic 20:48, March 17, 2012 (UTC)

lol. I think after this, she'll be getting an EDS shot. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 20:56, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * BIG BROTHER! -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 20:57, March 17, 2012 (UTC)
 * Lol, real Christians don't do that, I'm 100% sure Jesus never said for those to kidnapp, but in Islam, I do believe if you don't convert at the hands of the sword, your head is off. Christian supremacists, can not use the words of Jesus Christ, which is the new convenat, and which IS the law, to do their evil deeds. But Islamist extremists can use Quran text to support they're claims, in every way. Look at England, all them inclave Islam Shria Law Courts in the Muslim populated districts, ISLAM IS NOT BECOMING MODERATE. NOT EVEN IN EUROPE. I support for the ethnical Scandinavians to retake they're cultural lands by stopping immigration, when did they ever colonize, destroy or pilliage other cultures in North or South America? Stop immigration into Europe. -Sunkist- 02:01, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * Christian extremists can use their claims just as muslim extremists can. Ever heard of the middle ages and the catholic church persecuting homosexuals, jews, etc? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 11:53, March 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * They can use it, but they lose the right to be called Christians then. It's just as well you call a murderer who has been proven guilty an innocent bystander. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 11:56, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Timemaster: Yes, but this does not express the true belief of Jesus Christ, our lord and savior, he tought civility, love, and peace. NEVER will an orgnisation be truely perfect, nor a nation be. Christians who harass gays and lesbians, being hateful is a sin, calling them a fag, a queer, killing them or pushing them out of the circle is a sin. This man is not a Christian, nor does he understand his faith. ---Sunkist- 15:07, March 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * :) Anyway the problem is not inmigration yes or no; the problem is what kind of inmigration we want. During the first half of the twenty century, thousands of europeans went to the USA. They, have build up the nation with their work and what is more important, with their desire to become americans. All they wanted a better place for their children.


 * Current inmigration arriving Europe, specially muslim one, es quite different. They dont want to build up Europe. They want to stay in Europe, to earn money and to come back home as soon as possible. That is the why the integration is almost impossible becouse they dont want to be Europeans and they build ghettoes in order to preserve all their manners and we allow them things that are not allowed to Europeans in order to appear as good guys.


 * After the fall of The Wall, the leftish parties in Europe became orphans of references and they have made the arab cause their own cause. As you sure know, Europe is pro-palestine and quite anti-Israel.--BIPU 10:37, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Jeez everyone, I'm sorry that these people actually exist IRL in Norway. I'm also sorry that I AM a very liberal Muslim, and that my parents fled to Europe. Synthic 16:10, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

You could just say a radical group kidnapped her in protest of Skandinavia's militaristic policies. HORTON11 : •  16:59, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

"Militaristic policies"? Synthic 17:22, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Well... Usually is good to read what we write becouse reading your wiki we can see that Skandinavia is a nation with a population of 20 millions with 750,000 active soldiers. With 3.5% of your population are active soldies and more than 5,000 planes!!!!!!!!I'm sorry but yes, it is a very militaristic nation.--BIPU 17:29, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Gotta maintain the military autocracy. For the Konge! Synthic 17:48, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

lol --BIPU 17:51, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

Is it better now? Synthic 19:06, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

If you want my oppinion.... Yes... now is better becouse it is more realistic. :) --BIPU 19:12, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

I think your opinion is the most realistic. So therefore I want it the most. LOL Synthic 19:33, March 18, 2012 (UTC)

DETAIL
Are Spencer and Anne going to get married one day. Of course not soon after Anne is found, maybe like in 2013. But are they? Also, where did Spencer go? Synthic 22:07, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Spencer and Anne getting married... sounds cool. 2013 is good. Also, Spencer is at Fort Kentucky AFB going through a crash course in pwning terrorists. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 22:53, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

FW 3.0
When are we starting Future World 3.0? What we are doing now is confusion; major RP scenarios while we are in a state of transition. We also need to decide on which history to dump and which to keep. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:25, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I would like to propose some things to start FW 3.0:
 * To open a period (one or two weeks) for all the current players to define the nations they want to rule in FW 3.0. After the close of this period, no new nation will be allowed for a while.
 * To give a new time period (another one or two weeks) to develop the basics of all participant nations.
 * To set a common timeline of events and agree the most important historic facts that occured in the world in the last years. (WWIII, powers, etc.)
 * To set these agreements as "CANON FW 3.0" in order that all new nations should write its history agreeing with them.
 * Once the precedent points are finished, starting to play and open FW to new nations. --BIPU 17:45, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

I can agree to that. I especially like the timeline idea. We need to create a major events timeline where we can say which events we want to keep. I wanna keep the annexation of the USA and incorporation of Canada and Baja California, for example. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 18:06, March 20, 2012 (UTC)

Could I talk to you on chat? -Sunkist- 00:51, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Please: List of Nations + Players
I have seen editions of nations by players I supposed not to ruling them, so I´m afraid we need some place where to see who is in charge of every nation. I propose to add it in the "National info of Future World" page. --BIPU 08:37, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, uh, I've also lost track of who actually is part of Future World at this point. Zyn added another country... I think. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 09:04, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Please don't add New Austria to fw, it totally unrealistic (a $9 trillion GDP) and a population of 100 million. Anyways the article quality is consistent with that of $100.173.206.162.197 22:13, March 21, 2012 (UTC)

Australian-Everett Economic Ties
Hello! I was hoping to establish some type of economic deal with Everett. We mostly shipping our iron ore, alumina, nickle, lead, to be made in Chinese and Japanese goods, but seeing the the Allied States and the Union of Everett are getting off with more maufacturing, and producing your own consumer/automobile/electronincal/ goods that Australia can be able to provide you with the minerals needed to support your growing economy. We're also home to a major amounts of rare earths, like that of Neodymium which is used to produce lazers! Pew pew! Hopefully we can strike a economic relationship, where here in Australia we can provide the materials, while the Union of Everett provides the innovation, and skills to make Australians happy with some new gagget. -Sunkist- 07:15, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Sounds like a good plan. Let the trade begin. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 07:48, March 22, 2012 (UTC)

Future World 3.0
I intend to continue with Yarphei. I just happen to be very busy :) 23:07, March 25, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I think its time to begin moving. We need to set an agenda and the new rules (if there will be new rules). Anyway we should know as soon as possible WHEN is FW 3.0 going to start. --BIPU 10:59, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Has everyone agreed on the rules we will be establishing? If so, add the rules to the Rules page and 3.0 will begin. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:03, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

You gotta review the rules I suggested first. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:08, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Everyone has made some proposals, what we have to do now is to discuss about which ones we add to the current rules. I proposse to put here all the proposed changes/rules and start the debate. Anyway and to avoid the process going to infinite we should put an end date for the dabate, a date for the election and a date to start FW.

I propose to open a debate process until april 6, vote of the proposals on saturday 7, write the new rules on sunday 8 and starting FW 3.0 on monday 9. Do you agree?--BIPU 21:57, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'd personally rather all the suggestions go on the Talk:Rules of Future World page, and UP just review them. I've noticed that debates here are just both parties repeating themselves. I am also fairly sure everyone has risen their concerns about controversial proposals, thus, the debate is done. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 22:09, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

Anyway, and to help every player to put new ideas I think a time to new proposals should be opened. We have been waiting a long time so It should be no problem to wait one more week. ;)Patience... FW 3.0 is arriving!!!!!!!--BIPU 22:37, March 28, 2012 (UTC)

I dont see your opinions!!! Please... it is necesary to set an agenda to the starting.--BIPU 21:43, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

I personally thing the final touches will be going through the nations which are part of/want to be part of the new Future World. I see DK asked to stay, but I unfortunately cannot see any hope for his activity to heighten. We need to polish those details, then decide what history we want to scrap and what we want to move forward with. This means there may have to be a complete review of World War III (FW) and other major events. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:46, March 30, 2012 (UTC)

Everett City map
Did you make your maps by just editing a screencap of a map website? And if so, in what program? Woogers - talk 15:11, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Google Maps. Screen shot chunk by chunk of a zoom you prefer and fit them all together in a image editor of your choice (I use MS Paint.. inb4 over9000 hours in MS Paint). One you have your base land area, edit your roads and etc. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 15:38, April 1, 2012 (UTC)

Amerinews
What's the best news website to stay in tune with happenings in America? I like what you're doing with your Everetti events page and I also wanted to try it out, but I don't have the motivation to browse all my states' RL counterparts' news sites every day for the rest of my life. I currently read the Washington Post and New York Times, and Newsweek now and then, but I seldom read anything about AS states. What can you recommend? -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 15:41, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

CNN United States [http://www.yahoo.com/ Yahoo! United States] Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 15:48, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks! -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 15:51, April 2, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, have a look at BIPU's idea. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:01, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

i made a new map game, wanna join?

Something Changed (Map Game)

DeanSims 18:04, April 6, 2012 (UTC)

Section Construction
Is there a template for a section that needs to be finished at another time? I don't know how long it will take me to fully write my constitution. Synthic 21:29, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

type at the top of the page. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:31, April 7, 2012 (UTC)

Yarphei and Future World
You probably notice I have attempted to fix up Yarphei since I kind of let it go these past few months. Since I will probably go inactive for a few months until school gets out for summer (school>Wikia), I hope these fix-ups will at least satisfy you until then. But I do plan to continue the project. Thanks! Detectivekenny (Info; Talk) 23:01, April 15, 2012 (UTC)

Hi! I have created a Conworld Wiki in italian language. Can you insert my link in the list of conword wiki in homepage? :-) Paolino Paperino quack! 21:05, April 19, 2012 (UTC)

Vivaporius
Hey, could I make mention of Kaitlyn Spencer in one of my articles? It's Maurice Williams if you want to check it out. --"Truth fears no questions..." 03:04, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

You can if you are making a country for Future World. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 04:12, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

I plan too. I was focusing on making it's leader first. :D --"Truth fears no questions..." 05:48, April 20, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, when you speak of "war rights" in the FW rules, what does that mean? The ability to declare war or peace? Or just the inability to do anything regarding war? --"Truth fears no questions..." 03:36, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Because I finally got my internet problems sorted out, I wish to answer for him. War rights, in the context of the Engagement Rules, is the ability to diplomatically control conflicts through OOC conferences and chat dialogues. If the nation Derpistan began killing off its population of white Europeans, the European Union or another white European nation has the right to attack Derpistan without the consent of the owner. The same goes if Derpistan uses a nuclear missile in a conflict with the United States of Herpaderp, the United States of Herpaderp has the right to invade Derpistan without the owners consent. Its like what the Allies did to Germany during the Holocaust, didn't really feel the right to follow the Geneva Conventions. Synthic 03:47, April 21, 2012 (UTC)

Mandinka
Hey, can I get your critque on Mandinka? --"Truth fears no questions..." 21:31, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Critique in the sense of OOC on how well your writing and development has become? Or IC the Union of Everett's political views and stances on Mandinka? Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:38, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Either would be nice. But IC would be preferred. --"Truth fears no questions..." 21:52, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

The Union of Everett maintains total embargo and sanctions against Mandinka. Its federal government officially stated heavy condemnation against the Mandinkan government and key federal officials have condemned Maurice himself. Spencer, known for her manners of speaking, has of course, called out Maurice as a terrorist, bigot, genocidal maniac, murderer and has compared him to other notorious world leaders such as Hitler and Stalin. Name-calling is also not out of the question. In support of the Arab community, Spencer and the Security Alliance has condemned the outlawing of Islam.

The Federal State of Israel, has likewise condemned Mandinka and its leadership and also maintains strict sanctions and enforces an embargo through the Suez Canal in which Mandinkan vessels, civilian, commercial or military, are not authorized to pass through.

4chanistan hates Mandinka. Members of Anonymous around the world have made attempts to provide Mandinkans with routes of free access to the world wide web and frequently develops cyber technology hacks to allow citizens of censored internet services to access uncensored versions through downloadable patches and proxy services. This has generally been the method used in China and later Iran. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 22:07, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'll implement it later on. --"Truth fears no questions..." 22:15, April 22, 2012 (UTC)

Hey, I've noticed Everett's involvement in Uganda, and seeing as how Mandinka sees Africa as it's turf, could I have Mandinka involved in Operation: Child Shield as an opposer? They could be the guys providing the LRA with money, arms, equipment, and training, to prevent Everett from gaining ground in Africa. --"Truth fears no questions..." 00:42, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

According to the rules, you may include forces into a region of war within blank territories to either aid or fight against whatever activity is ongoing. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 01:01, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Scarlet Mass
Would you like to attend a Mass? Its very similar to that of Christian service, you'd also agree almost with 100% politically with people that go to the churches. How about it? Spencer inbound! -Sunkist- 00:43, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

"The current status of the Scarlet "Cult" is under review by the Union of Everett Department of State. Your access to tax-exempt status remains as pending until further review can be completed as a result of the Uluru incident. The Department of Defense currently maintains levels of interest in the meteorite itself, which is also deemed by the Department of the Paranormal as a potentially bio-hazardous extraterrestrial object. As a result, official relations with your organization is not approved. Please refer to the Department of the Paranormal for further information on your pending status of recognition by the Federal government.

-Department of State representative for Presidential communications" Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 00:54, April 26, 2012 (UTC)

Clones
Admin dude, are clones allowed? --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 03:11, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I really dislike clones. The ASA has them, although despite my issues with Superwarmokey's cloning technology. I don't like how it is and I'm probably gonna have to talk to him more about the clone stuff. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 03:58, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Ah, okay. Save it for Future World Next-Gen then? --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 04:15, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Clones will go when droids/other funny robot technology goes. Until that time, clones will stay and continue multiplying. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 12:23, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Hmm. Interesting.... --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 13:46, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

The problem is that you are growing fully developed adults in a matter of months? years? And then somehow magically implanting all the knowledge in them that it would take any normal human 18+ years to acquire. Those are my only issues. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 16:01, April 29, 2012 (UTC)


 * The only thing I see here is that ASA clones are not widely used so they not represent any problem for the game. Allowing the general use of clones, and yes, if clones can be used by Mandkinka I can see a million Mandinka clones together with their stelar fleet, their 5000 planes, etc. etc. etc.--BIPU 16:08, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Their growth is not accelerated. They grow up just like the rest of humankind. That means, in 17 years, and each year after that, I'll be having more and more clones. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 17:05, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

So then, according to that, you do not possess any clones and won't have any until at least 2024. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 17:17, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Has BIPU even read the lastest revisions of Mandinka? Cause, I get the feeling he hasn't. Maybe I just forgot to fix something during all the work I put into getting it ready for FW 3.0. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 17:49, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I have millions of clones right now, they're just babies. The clones are for FWNG, like the droids are supposed to be. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 19:04, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Actually, robots and droids are allowed in FW. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:14, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

And so is accelerated aging/growth, but I am not doing that, because I love being fair. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:40, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Fusion power
Would it be possible for the ESA to acquire Everetti fusion technology around 2020? I'm interested in powering a spacecraft that would have the capability to planet HD 85512 b without running out of fuel. HORTON11 : •  19:33, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to get in on that action, I'd like to get ships to Kepler-22b and KOI-494.01. Or I could just make my own fusion generator... --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 19:59, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Mandinka is not allowed access to Everetti technologies. Embargoes, etc. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:14, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

So it's more like steal or rush build a highly unpredictable version? Or pull together a number of Everetti enemies to make an copy of it? Or just find an alternative? --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 22:32, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Well if you choose to build an unstable fusion plant and then nuke one of your cities off the Earth in the process, Everett doesn't care. LOL Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 23:46, April 29, 2012 (UTC)

Your a jerk. Did you know that... --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 00:25, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Nuclear fusion reactors can't explode anyway. They just would fizzle out or use more electricity than they make. Seriously guys, lrn2physics. Woogers - talk 00:27, April 30, 2012 (UTC)


 * Despite what wikipedia says (the paragraph needs citations indeed) it is possible to have accidents in a fusion reactor. There are thousands of parameters to control and it is possible to become the plasma unstable. In this case we should not exclude the possibility of an explosion. --BIPU 07:28, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't know what paragraph or article you're referring to, but I'm talking about UP's assertion that a failing fusion reactor would be akin to setting if a nuclear bomb, which it wouldn't.Woogers - talk (Flag of Ivalice.pngFlag of the East Asian Federation.png) 10:36, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well... it depends on what you are thinking of a "nuclear bomb". Of course, not a fusion one, but the explosion of a fusion facility could generate enough energy to have a big destruction potential.--BIPU 11:18, April 30, 2012 (UTC)
 * We'll never really know, will we, until we have an example to look at. Woogers - talk (Flag of Ivalice.pngFlag of the East Asian Federation.png) 13:54, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

Awesome. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 00:30, April 30, 2012 (UTC)

OMG
Do something about this in Everett: http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/nc-votes-constitutional-ban-gay-marriage-16305264#.T6nIay-vvdU (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Baltic Republic - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 01:30, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

NO! You can't change a state's democratically amended constitution. It you do, you only prove that Everett is only fair and free so long as it doesn't conflict with it's political agenda. And it'll also prove that Everett's government doesn't care to recognize a state's right to do as it's citizens request. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 01:51, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

The Union of Everett already has federal law legalizing it. Whether NC decides to unlawfully ban it against federal law, the feds often register marriages under federal law anyway, meaning that NC's attempt is a failure in both ways. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 19:01, May 9, 2012 (UTC)

Conquest of Africa
I will let you know that if your nation decides to invade Mandinka, there's a lot of Vanev forces surrounding it, ready to help. I presume the DDR, which controls the Togo enclave, which is strategically important in case you did decide to invade, might also send you support, but I don't know what user controls it, so I cannot check. 77topaz 01:44, May 12, 2012 (UTC)

Skull Lords
Hey UP, could I make a gang in Everett? Some info on them. As the section says, their called the Skull Lords. They would be made up of second-genetion Mandinka immigrents from before Everett's formation. They'd be found in Chicago, New York City, Atlanta, and any other cities with a large black population. Because of their military culture, they'd be rather well armed, trained, and desensatized (or rather dehumanized), to violence and performing inhuman actions. Additionally, this means they wouldn't break apart like most gangs do (take for example the Crips). They sell frugs (meth, heroin, cocaine), and deal in racketeering, prostitution, and bribery. They number about 40-50,000 strong. I'm pretty much looking for a reason to go toe-to-toe with Everetti police, and see just how good they are at keeping law and order. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 04:29, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Well Everett has already been known for sending the military into high crime gang neighborhoods. It's been done before to South-Side Chicago and areas of Philadelphia. Don't be surprised to see Marines in combat Humvees raiding gang houses alongside the Feds. Timeline Events (EV): March 2010 and October 2009. Also this: North American Drug War (Everetti military utilizing combat aircraft against Mexican cartel/gang strongholds). And of course: Homeland Defense System and FESDA (killing gang members is generally legal and most courts don't give a shit.)

If they are "second-generation", they would not be well trained or armed nor desensitized being they were born in and raised in the Union of Everett or late USA before its demise. First generation is entirely possible. Post-Terror Act Immigration & Naturalization Service (EV), it would be impossible for any Mandinkans to get in. So many would have to be second-generation or former immigrants from the US before it became Everett. If any of them have been arrested for any crime, also this applies: ETC9-1-1 National Monitoring Centers and Emergency Detection System. I'd say in total 40-50,000 strong is excessive, especially since the heavy crackdowns on gang violence from 2005-2010 and the enhanced education and anti-gang programs sponsored by the government and the NAACP since 2011. I'd say about 7,500 is a good number. The rest are dead, deported, in federal prison, on death row, K.I.A. or other. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 04:55, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Gotcha on all of that. No offense, but I highly doubt you know much about second-generation kids. They might feel a sense of pride in their new homeland, but, with their parents preaching about the wonderous land of Mandinka, and speaking of the "injustices" Everett commited against their old nation, they'd be more incline to help their mommy and daddy. Additionally, these aren't your average liberal Everettis. Much like your Chinatowns, Little Italy's, and Jew Streets, Mandinkas stick together, especially when your raised in a country that tells its kids to work as a unit. So while I agree they'd be less prepared to fight because of Everetti child protection laws, they'd still be some good shooters. Everett has no law against taking your kid to a gun range right? --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 05:08, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Understandable. Also: Gun Ownership In Everett... In regards to that, the parents who immigrated would have criminal background checks among other things before they could even own a firearm, much less teach their kid to use one. Anyone with a criminal record level above 6 is pretty much fucked out of ever owning one. Criminal record level system can be read here: Criminal Justice In Everett. The kids themselves, growing up as juvenile delinquents as you described these gangs to be, would never be capable of owning a firearm legally and therefore, never really being able to train to use one at any designated firing range or acquire legal professional training, especially on par with Chicago PD much less against the national Marine Corps and FBI, NAF or UECU. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 05:19, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the info. I'll find a way around the gun laws. Thugs always do. Though I'm not implying I'm a thug. Anyway, with the issues gangs are having in Everett, most of the gang would have gotten their stash and training before 2003. Anway, thank, and I'll get to work on that gang later on. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 05:40, May 15, 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry man. I didn't know Super would react that way. :( --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 18:50, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Allied States
So are all references to the Allied States removed? Do we bring the US and Canada back? Woogers - talk 19:31, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

I would think so. Cause the ASA was the US correct? So it would be somewhat appropirate to do so. At least, from my point of view. But since I'm not an admin, I think I'll shut up now. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 19:48, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

The ASA and everything with it is officially disconnected. The United States has been restored with President Obama. Canada is also restored. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 19:52, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

So the area is free for a new country? --Falloutfan08 20:54, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

So the political scene is back to the way it was in late 2009, with only Everett and Cascadia (and also Canada and Mexico)? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 22:45, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, sirs. Pretend as if the Allied States never formed. Land is now up for grabs. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 23:36, May 17, 2012 (UTC)

Finally my fantasy nation can be lived. A regional power that feeds off corporate activity. I'll be dropping the BPR for this. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 00:57, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Texas? Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 01:08, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

A beautiful Texas.... (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 01:36, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

I'm retarded lol
I dropped my laptop in the pool and I have to use my iPad until I can get that repaired. Lol. I just wanted to let you know my progress will be slow until then. Fml, I should just renounce technology and move to a New Age colony in New Mexico. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 03:18, May 18, 2012 (UTC)

Nigeria
UP, could I use the Federal Republic of Nigeria article Abuju made for New Era? I don't want to sound greedy and underhanded, bu he hasn't been on since 2010, and only made 14 edits. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 05:37, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Well I guess. I would consider it an abandoned project. I have no problem with it. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 06:00, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks UP. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 06:06, May 21, 2012 (UTC)

Looking for some pointers
Hey UP. I was rather amazed at the number of articles deticated to the Union of Everett, and the fact that that's enough to make a small wiki. I was interested in transforming Mandinka into a nation as detailed and well-thought out as your own, and was looking for some help. Could you tell me how you did it, and what effort it took to make it? I'd be very appreciative. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 06:11, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Well I first started on Everett in 2008 here on this wiki. This Guide goes through basically how to go about achieving this. Vital pages are necessary as the foundation to the country. Things like the main nation article, the leader, the government, military, demographics, etc. From there you move on to less important articles until you have written about everything a person would need to know about a nation. At that point, you can just fill in extra random articles and things that make your nation unique and interesting like actors, actresses or other celebrities, movies, media, music, cultural articles, notable infrastructure (buildings and places to go or see), geography, landmarks, companies and corporations, etc. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 17:50, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks UP. --"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 22:57, May 25, 2012 (UTC)

Mandinka
This has gone on long enough. When does the war effort planning begin? Woogers - talk 08:09, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

If you can get the attention of Mr. DetectiveKenny, I would like this to be a joint PAFF-OIS global war versus Mandinka. I'm sure even OIS has some sort of morals. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 08:11, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

He's probably dead wrt the wiki, but I think I can deploy the OIS peacekeeping force myself for this purpose. I also imagine that the VLA would be busy fighting a civil war at this moment. Woogers - talk 08:15, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

How many doods in the OIS peacekeeping force? OIS still got that 40 million? Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 08:19, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Something like that, I don't remember. I'll have to look it up. Woogers - talk 08:25, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Yep. 40M coalition of the willing. Woogers - talk 08:38, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Then we shall have a PAFF-OIS joint force. Avenge our fallen Brazilian brethren! Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 08:47, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Gotta take care of a few formalities, first. Will get on that when I get home in about an hour. Woogers - talk 08:56, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

Just a warning
I'm going to tell you that the false flag operation I'm about to pull will allow me to declare war on Mandinka and begin the mobilization of my forces. Everything will be done bona fide, and no one will really be harmed. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 22:56, May 27, 2012 (UTC)

You know, this is not how Self-Defense Forces are meant to be used. Woogers - talk 02:13, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'm using the attack as justification for a large scale occupation and re-stabilization of Brazil. They are not going to attack Mandinka, but help with the interm government of Brazil. I will not, I repeat will not, be attacking anything. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 02:24, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Still... Woogers - talk 03:59, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

I'm not pulling a South America. This is the only time I am doing this because I want to help Brazil. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 04:07, May 28, 2012 (UTC)

Disconnection
Hi UP. With Super Warmonkey out of FW, there is no longer a major opponent to disconnection. What do you think of partially reinstating it? It'd be used less that in 1.0 and 2.0, but I think there should be disconnection instead of blanking for unrealistic or huge nations, or inactive ones that are just annoying to the older players. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:55, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

'scuse me. The Allied States has left Future World, because I don't want my main project being part of a circus. However, as the Union of Benelux is still part of said game, this "major opponent to disconnection" is still here. No. These rules have been debated on and agreed on. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:46, June 2, 2012 (UTC)

Well, I'm sorry for not noticing that you've returned to FW. Benelux was inactive before. And if you're so opposed to the circus, why is Benelux still in anyway? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:01, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Benelux is my representation in FW. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 17:13, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Alright. Back on topic: The current situation is that when a nation goes inactive, it is blanked, and all of its past history remains. The problem is, eventually history will become all knotted up from the endless wars and disputes we have and new players simply cannot keep up with it all. I propose that we reinstate disconnection AS AN ALTERNATIVE to blanking, for, as I said, unrealistic or huge nations, or inactive ones that are annoying to the older players and just don't fit in with Future World. Warmonkey, you act like that if a nation gets disconnected, it will take weeks to remove from history. That is not true. I think we need to attract new players over reducing our own workload. Besides, what are we going to do when suddenly an important nation (such as Yarphei or the ASA) stops playing? Are we going to say they entered a period of isolation that will never end? I don't think so. Disconnection is a good solution to many probably, and it should be reintroduced. Please. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:17, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * It does take weeks. Scattered around my articles in the Allied States is still references to "Kaitlyn Rachel Spencer" and "Everett" and definitely "Yarphei" or "Yarphese." It is a huge effort to make these things disappear. Now that the ASA has left FW, I need to remove World War 3; do you know how much of an effort that is at the moment? That war is more than half my country's history. Blanking avoids this. Otherwise, I need to do this entire process every time someone decides to go inactive. I am still fighting this battle for the newcomers who will be extremely confused when they see references to countries which don't exist in our articles. When they look at World War 3 pages and see some European nation which has been disconnected for months. Disconnection causes extreme confusion. It's a solution to only a few problems but creates bigger issues in the process. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 17:24, June 3, 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't believe so. The reason it takes weeks is because the Allied States has been in Future World since January 2010 and has many, many articles (and because all of us are lazy). I'm talking about countries that haven't done much, though blanking larger nations would also be possible. Blanking prevents new nations from making the history they want to make. Instead of being able to just write a history, they have to deal with all these CRAZY events that make no sense. —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:32, June 3, 2012 (UTC)


 * We have rules against impossibility and implausibility, thus everything that happens, for a few intents and purposes, CAN happen. Thus, this entire thing Mandinka has done, is possible, thus it is in character and not really considered powergaming. THUS, I don't understand what the problem is. Sure, they have formed a big part of history, but until they are disconnected, this history won't change. Even after that, what they did will remain. I am sorry, but you're not going to convince me on this. This is one of my principle standings on role play. I have been role playing for YEARS and just removing shit that actually happens goes against the basics of serious role play. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 17:37, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Also, why did you ignore me, UP? —TimeMaster (talk • contribs) 17:18, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Complaint
UP I am a mad person and I am demanding action be taken. Ban the use of hate speech or Texas will invade Louisiana. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 04:37, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

wat Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 04:53, June 3, 2012 (UTC)

Tunnel & Facebook
I just noticed while reading the Florida-Haiti interstate Tunnel, that the page has 3,800 likes. Why is that? What happened in that article that so many people read and liked it on Facebook? --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 02:00, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Funny story. The entire country of Haiti believed it was for real. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 03:43, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

What... --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 05:46, June 4, 2012 (UTC)

Moving Mandinka
Hey, I wanted to move Mandinka from West Africa to Madagascar. After speaking with MC, Super, and Sunkist, they all suggested I'd ask you if it was okay first. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 01:37, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Any reason why you want to relocate? I don't have any problems with it, though. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 03:12, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Great. My reasons are very simple. I want to cut back on Mandinka's numbers, and maintain a professional fighting force. Additionally, it would allow the justification of more advanced equipment, such as the thermal energy rifles I plan to use. Thus, smaller numbers = move advanced military force. Plus, the whole "Mandinka is the reason Future World is a joke" theme is getting old. Some blame me for making FW look bad because I changed an African nation's fortunes. By doing this, I lessen the blow, and get some breathing room from the attacks. A long but relatively simple explaination. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 03:34, June 5, 2012 (UTC)

Check FW Members
I went to look at the history of some pages and there were some that werent edited in over a month such as EAF, Europa, and the UE. Do you allow these pages to get away with that? - Random guy


 * Attention Random Guy, Identify yourself or a nice ban is in order, bro-ski. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 02:24, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Shut the fuck up asshole, they are all important. Fuck you. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 22:39, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Sunkist, your IP does not hide you. Stop failing. Minecraftian, such harsh language is not necessary to rebuff ignorant trolling. Woogers - talk 22:49, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

It's not Sunkist. Sunkist lives in New Albany, Indiana, not Indianapolis. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 22:50, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I noticed this, but too slow for you to not edit conflict me. Apologies, Sunkist. Woogers - talk 22:52, June 6, 2012 (UTC)

Who ever this person, I wonder who this fellow Hoosier is, and why you want this stuff? Are you seeking Japan or something---Sunkist- 23:01, June 6, 2012 (UTC)?

He might be able to get it. I don't think I'll be able to stay in Future World much longer, I've gotten busier. Plus, it's getting a little hectic. I'm hoping things will settle down with Vivaporious scaling down a little bit, but I basically have to rewrite everything because the Allied States left. Woogers - talk 00:01, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, this is what I don't like about FW. I'm sure people would get lazy if they have to keep changing other countries' info on their pages if they are disconnected. HORTON11 : •  14:03, June 7, 2012 (UTC)

Fixing double redirects
May I have your permission to run a bot to fix your double redirects for you? ~ty 18:16, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

Only if it won't cause a bunch of redlinks in articles that use those redirected links. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:50, June 8, 2012 (UTC)

California & the Andrean Republic
UP, Sunkist just created the Republic of California, in full knowledge that I claimed that region for the Andrean Republic. The real trip is the fact that since I forgot to add the republic to the FW national info list, he said that it doesn't count as a nation, and thus he can use his California article. Heck, MC knows I was there first. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 04:22, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

You were there first, yes, but you never finished yours!!! (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 04:23, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

True. But it has a leader article, and most of the economy and military sections have been filled in. Additionally, Sunkist just made his a few hours ago! --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 04:31, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

For a nation to be completely submitted into Future World, the national page must be filled out completely. Imin2 rules. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 04:34, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm aware of that. I'm just ticked off at the fact that someone claimed a region someone else got to first. No honor at all? --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 04:46, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Viva has full right over the territory as it was already claimed, reserved and is both actively being developed and used in roleplay. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 05:59, June 11, 2012 (UTC)

Grand Flatts City
I want your opinion on it, as you have a city made up yourself. I know the Wards, aren't finished but that might take days. I've heard from Super and Sunkist, but it would be nice to hear from someone still in FW. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 03:35, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

Also this. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 03:38, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

I've become busy with real life. I've read what you've done so far and it is good. I'll need specific questions so I can help you more efficiently. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 03:41, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

More specifically, how much does a fusion power plant costs. Those things are very useful, and a methane-gas combination can only last for so long and so much power. How do you think Everett would react to the formation of the Holy Empire of Texas? I'm going to start invading during Christmas, which Mexico gives a special holiday off for its government (so evil). I just don't want Everett thinking I'm going to invade your strange collection of Gulf States. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 03:45, June 16, 2012 (UTC)

#$&%*#
Well, I've only had one nation, but whatever. Australia, and thats been it. Scandinavia, I was afraid of him getting rid of it, California, I didn't want another black nationalist party in America. Behave? I was afraid of people leaving FW and Conworlds, I wanted to keep FW alive, while others wanted to destroy it. -Sunkist- 11:36, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

No, you have jumped around over two dozen nations since joining this Wikia. Pick one and stick with it, seriously. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 19:02, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Mediation
Okay here is the situation.


 * Announced publicly a few days ago, Texas will invade and bomb the shit out of Mexico.
 * Sunkist feels like being a "good ally" and decides to prevent me from attacking Mexico City in some way, even though OOC he only knows Texas will invade Mexico.
 * He decides to put his Prime Minster in Mexico City during the night of the attack to have talks with the Mexican government, even though Texan officials will be gone in Texas.
 * So is he Metagaming or not?
 * He claims he isn't because he has a reason for being there, even though the other side of the conflict is not present. It's like having an Allied peace talk during World War II, but the Axis isn't there. And they don't even know that the Axis is the Axis.

Is it rule violating for me to attack as planned? Or is he violating the rules? (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 20:43, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

You can attack a blank all you want, just don't try to kill his President. He also can't claim to say that you did kill his President. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 21:58, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Well I was planning on using a 75Mt WMD against Mexico City, and that is why he is putting his Prime Minister there. Of course he says it's because he is trying to clam tensions between Mexico and Texas, but how can he do that if my people aren't even there? (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 22:01, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Why would you use a 75 MT nuke on Mexico City anyway? Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 22:03, July 1, 2012 (UTC)

Cut off the head of the snake. Their military's organizational structure will be unable to cope with a full scale invasion if they have no figureheads. Of course the casualties will be in the 20s of millions, but the price for unexploited land is blood, as history has told us. Your states are not at much harm, just a little bit of pressure change and a strong wind on the border. My weapon is also mostly non-radioactive. But I am trying to colonize Mexico, so I think getting rid of the largest population and government center first will be much easier on securing states. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Skandinavia - Texas - Oil City - Mozambique   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ)

Say the man who created the most powerful and ridiculously overpowered nation in the setting and uses the most unrealistic technology and weaponry in the game. Heck, half the stuff I made was based off of Everett. Anti-gravity was from Everett, the fusion technology was from Everett. If I'm correct, the airships I made when I first joined I based off of Everett. Not FWNG Everett. YOUR Everett. How can you manage to get to Mars in FW when scientist (IRL ones), say that the Moon is far easier to colonize than the Mars. In fact, I'm basing the colony off of real world science. If you have a problem with that, look it up. From my research, the OIS was retarded to begin with, and Super's been telling me that the FW issues went far back before I joined. Ask the man yourself. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 04:35, July 12, 2012 (UTC)

Hello
Hello I found your Kaitlyn Spencer article on google during a search about Anonymous hackers. I love your country and would like to join Future World. May I use Brazil and Argentina to make a country? Psyrax (talk) 10:00, July 17, 2012 (UTC)

Haha, oh wow. Dude, you are a god-send. Well, here's the deal. You have the right to choose any unused territories. The issues though is that another player's country Hurian Federation, decided to one day send millions of murderers and other crazy people to Brazil to genocide everyone there for fun. The result of this has left Brazil in total FUBAR. Now, the Rules are being re-written, seen here (Rules of Future World), but another member does not like it when roleplayed history is reverted (undone). I don't care for that opinion as you can see, it fucks everything up for you. So, you can make your country and basically, I will revert all Brazilian history so you can develop your country to your liking. Be sure to read the following stuff, Future World, Rules of Future World and update yourself on the other players and their nations, found all listed in the. Welcome to Future World and have fun developing your country. If you need any help, message me. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 03:20, July 18, 2012 (UTC)
 * With all due respect sir, that rule is actually a rule. You are the admin around here but I don't see Obama killing people because he thinks he can break the laws. The rule is either in stone or it doesn't exist, and Future World can be plunged back into total anarchy. If you would like that, just make it abundantly clear somewhere, then I won't stand in your way. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 16:00, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * The problem with this whole "non-reverting/no-disconnection" policy is that it totally ruins everything for anyone who wants to join. Future World is already on the brink of total destruction because of the insanity lately and if we do not allow for the reverting of history, there will be so much garbage backed up in our "REQUIRED AND MANDATORY" history rule that no one will even want to join as half the planet will be smoking piles of rubble. The result? No new players, no interest in roleplaying and the total inability for any interaction, nation building or anything else and therefore, Future World's non-existence. I personally find your "rule" unfair to players. It ruins everything for everyone. Had this rule been in place since day one, the ASA would have never existed. Several countries owned that land way before it. Benelux would not exist either as it belongs to THIS. Yarphei? THIS owns Yarphei. And then the wonderful East Asian Federation would not have been allowed to exist because of THIS. The result of your rule would force Future World to be filled with a crap flood of crap. That is my issue with the whole anti-disconnection policy. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 16:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * That's the basic principles of role playing. If this rule existed prior to the ASA, I would have dealt with it. I expect players to deal with it. If they are unable to create a country in the current situation, they can leave. We want committed players. Without this rule, Future World is confusing, and that is worse to new players. There are THOUSANDS of references to the Allied States STILL on main Future World pages. What do you think new players think about that? The World War III article is full of ASA references, and it's one of the main projects in Future World. It's confusing. I will continue helping you admin Future World but if this rule goes then for all IC intents and purposes, I am gone, and I won't recommend Future World to anyone. There must always be order - and without this rule, that is literally impossible. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 17:42, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree with the above. If you remove the rule, then older players will comb through ALL of their articles, including you, to change the fluff to what the new players write. If Brazil says nothing happened between 2008 and 2012, then that mean Huria and Everett never had anything to fight about in those endless talks in the UN. That means Hadalla and Gwachum are still alive, that means that you never killed those 150,000 Hurians, and it means that Huria is still liked by the rest of the world making Everett look like a fool. Even if you get rid of minor events like Operation: Facepalm which came about because of the Hurian and Everetti fights, then you alter everything that effected the actions of Benelux, Austraila, and Everett. Your causing more harm to Future World than you seek to resolve. And there will always be more players. Pato Alto, Enclavehunter, and 77topaz have all joined in the time you started complaining FW was dying. Palo is an active contributer, having added some 10-15 detail articles regarding the Kingdom of Lapland. Your too busy crying about the lose of the older players to see that FW has been growing since then. Super has a valid point, and I am against disconnection as well. Imagine what would happen if Everett left... --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 18:02, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm sorry but I cannot tell everyone that wants to join that they cannot express a single bit of their desired creativity because the last retard to use the section of land screwed everything up, whether with some absurd country like Kingdom of Greenland, who, if you remember, committed suicide by anthraxing itself to death before the user disappeared forever, or in the case of Psyrax wanting to use Brazil, another user exterminated it from existence, making the entire nation useless to anyone, like Psyrax, who may want it and might be one of those good players that happened to come around sometimes. I don't know yet, that's why we have the FW Candidate probation period to see how development comes out and if the new user is willing to actually be committed to the conworld and the roleplay. It is 100% unfair to new players, when people are unable to utilize any creativity, because they are forced to abide by events that occurred because the players who we know are dedicated and hardworking, are to lazy to go back and remove some history. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 19:28, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm still opposed to the idea. But whatever, lets hope your idea works. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 19:40, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Trying to make it sound bad isn't going to work. We are all (yes, YOU included, Ham) too lazy to go through literally hundreds of articles and remove references to past countries, then edit the context of those articles to match the current situation. I don't want to make a job from Conworlding. It's a hobby. I like it. What I don't like is having to reedit my shit every time someone joins or leaves. Remember BIPU? He was made a SYSOP (!!!) of the ENTIRE (!!!) Wikia, and left ALL (!!!) of his countries for the SECOND (!!!) time. NOBODY can be trusted, thus the candidate system is flawed. Like I said above, the only way to ensure stability is to keep the rule, and like I said a while back, is to have more strict rules. We can rather make MORE rules which can stop retarded shit than remove this EXTREMELY important rule. But, Ham, then again, if you are willing to edit all the references to disconnected countries out, then you can remove this rule, but then I don't want to see a reference to the ASA !ANYWHERE! in an article having to do with Future World. Sound impossible? Because, unless you don't have any real life, it is. You need to decide:


 * Give leeway to new players, sacrificing order and stability.
 * Sacrifice some creativity to keep order and stability.

It's your choice. This isn't a democracy. But believe me that those are the only two options. You can't have order and stability AND give players the freedom to make their perfect dream country at the same time. Somewhere a sacrifice is to be made. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 19:52, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * Super, that is why I am here. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - United Commonwealths   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 19:59, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * I agree once again. There is no trifecta here, and in striping away the anti-discountinuity rule, your forcing everyone to claw through years of work, because a user, who may decide to leave one day, changed the events that effected everything. I have a life, and I refused to do that. You have a life, and everyone here knows your not going to change the history. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 20:10, July 18, 2012 (UTC)


 * You should take your own advice UP, and actually read the 40 articles on Huria before you start complaining the war was just for the "lulz". --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 17:13, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Okay thanks I will start working on my country. LIKE A BOSS, PSYRAX (Speak Your Peace) 13:32, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

I just removed the Allied States from FW History. It wasn't actually as hard as it seems. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - United Commonwealths   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 20:52, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Good. Great. Then the rule can be removed it you are available to call upon for each and every revision made from this date forward. Special Assistant to the Deputy Administrator. Congrats on your new job. ;) -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:33, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

Assistant, UN Meetings (FW) is in need of ASA removals. Remember to change the context as well, as other leaders are talking to ASA representation. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:34, July 18, 2012 (UTC)

It's simple, to just rebrand them, because the United States continued its excellent existence long enough after the ASA left. Then the Australians annexed it, but it was still there before that. And so, I can just re brand them. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - United Commonwealths   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 00:29, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well most of the United States. My nation, which is named theUnited States - continues to exist in the Midwestern region (Yes, I changed the name from the Midwestern Republic to United States). Enclavehunter (talk) 01:04, July 19, 2012 (UTC)


 * The United States I'm talking about is pre-Australia United States. With California intact. Of course, if Sunkist let you, you might be able to take back California. However, he's been gone very recently for a while. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - United Commonwealths   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 01:08, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Then do the edits. If, at any point, you start to feel it a burden to only be placed on your shoulders, come to my side of the fence and oppose the removal of this rule, however, until then, I will continue pointing out the extreme flaws of removing it. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 13:01, July 19, 2012 (UTC)

Client States
What is the rule for how many client states you can have? I plan on having two total, but they will basically be Texas without the Texan part. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - Skandinavia   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 18:23, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Define a "client state". Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 18:25, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Client states are like federal states, but not apart of the country. Instead of actually having sovereignty, they remain under the direct control of the Texan monarchy and military, and their laws are derived directly from the Constitution/Code of Laws. Colombia and Venezuela (which includes Guyana) will both be Duchies of the Kingdom of Texas at some point, but their dukes will be Texans and their governments will be the Duchy Militia. They will follow the direct word of the Kingdom of Texas, and will not do anything without the word of the Kingdom of Texas. They will have little to no sovereignty, and basically be territory of the Kingdom of Texas. However, they are not apart of the Kingdom of Texas like a state is. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - Skandinavia   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 18:30, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

So in essence, they are part of your country's territorial claims and not individual sovereign nations? If so, you are not limited as they are no different than any other chunk of land on the map you wish to be part of your country. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 18:35, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, thanks! For future reference Guyana, Venezuela and Colombia are claimed as apart of future Texas Here. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - Skandinavia   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 18:56, July 28, 2012 (UTC)

SAC
Hey, I know it's less than a day old, but I need you to tell me what I can do in the next few hours to have it accepted. My elections are creeping up and I need to respond to this UN thing. I'll be finishing the main page throughout the day. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 15:04, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

You need a completed main nation page with infobox; a leader page, describing your current President/etc with infobox; a detailed military page, generally listing all your military branches, troop counts and vehicle counts, weapons, etc; a completed demographics article; and a basic diplomacy page which lists your alliances, peace treaties and membership is international organizations. All Level 1 data HERE. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 15:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I've given my terms UP. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 15:13, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

My claims are in order. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 15:21, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

UP. We need to end this now. Does the SAC have a hold on its land or do they belong to Huria? --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 15:54, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Make note UP, Viva told me on my Allied States wiki that he had no plans to expand Huria in the future, on 16 July 2012. Also, the territories I claim were not part of his "claimed" territory yesterday when I made the SAC page. He only took Central Africa, Congo and a few others. None in Southern Africa. My page was created and waiting in Candidate Future World before he claimed more than half of Africa. Thus, within current FW rules, I reserved that spot. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 16:01, August 1, 2012 (UTC)
 * Not entirely, as I was annexing the nations in time. I did say had plans to expand Huria in the future, but the future changes as events change too. Thus, as a human being, I reserve the right to change my mind. Additionally, I it clear that the nations I planned on annexing were already Hurian allies, meaning that your article itself makes no sense, as they would go off to form a seperate nation to fight the nation that was protecting them. Thus, by the current FW rules, I still own those regions, I just found myself having to do it ahead of schedule to protect my claims. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 16:08, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

No, that's not how this works buddy, you don't say you don't have plans of expanding, then "as a human being" change your mind. Normal people call that lying. Angola and Zimbabwe were allies of yours but not claimed territories. Allies but not claimed territories. Allies but not claimed territories. Allies but not claimed territories. You don't make the rules. Thus, by the current FW rules, my connecting nation will own those regions without any interference from you. You didn't reserve them ANYWHERE. Your "My Plan for Huria" stuff was limited to FWNG until you saw me in your backyard. Deal with it or disconnect Huria. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:11, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I won't deal with it, and I'm not disconnecting Huria. i don't know what they teach you in South Africa, but here its called the freedom of choice, a freedom we use all the time when we feel like it. Argue all you want, but the SAC was only a vehicle to keep me from expanding. I'll deal with it once UP makes his decision. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 16:35, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, I am sorry, I meant deal with it or Huria will be disconnected. UP's choice only relates to Angola and Zimbabwe, the only two "close allies" of my claimed territories. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:37, August 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * LOL. There is a reason your called the  deputy  admin. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 16:51, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

That changes nothing. Deal with it or deal without Huria. It's very, very simple. I am an enforcer of Future World rules and you are a normal player. If I think you're breaking rules, I will take appropriate action. UP can overwrite me if he wants... but I feel there's a relationship of trust between myself and UP. Nobody lobbied for my appointment as a deputy admin, so you can continue to question my authority, but it changes absolutely nothing. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 17:06, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

I must agree that Super has the right over SAC. Please Viva or Super, if necessary, direct me to further evidences, otherwise I must concur with Super. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 17:48, August 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * No worries. Super and I came to a concensus, and I will recognize his claims. I'm done expanding Huria, and I mean that. For now... However, I have to get back to work, and finish up on some of Huria's articles, then I'm moving on to something less Huria-like. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 17:50, August 1, 2012 (UTC)


 * Yes, we came to a consensus, but I am serious, this is where Huria stops. I am putting an admin-blockade on any new territory you might hope to get. You own more than half of Africa now. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 18:05, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Alright UP, I finished it all:
 * Main Page
 * Military
 * Leader
 * Demographics/outline

-Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 18:09, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

You are missing large portions of data. Your GDP is not specified and half the Demographics data is missing. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 22:17, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Alright, well, I wasn't sure if I had to add obvious stuff like majority race, but alright. I'll also try and think of a GDP. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 22:24, August 1, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, check it again. If something else is missing, you're gonna have to be more specific. I put all the information actively available to me there, and had to speculate on most of it. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:41, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Okay, you are clear to join FW. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 16:45, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Great stuff, thanks. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 16:50, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Kingdom of Lapland
How long is my probation? Palo Alto (talk) 21:04, August 2, 2012 (UTC)

Please finish your military article with troop counts, vehicles and weapons among other data; finish your leader article and you need a demographics article and a diplomacy/foreign relations page. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 00:29, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

In Need of Logos
Hey UP. I've seen some of the logos you made for Everett's companies and I was wondering if you could help me with one? Enclavehunter (talk) 21:15, August 3, 2012 (UTC)

I'm busy these days so I can't work on much but give me a list of what you need and I can try. Woogers, Superwarmonkey and others are also good with logos. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 16:55, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Well. I need one for National Arms Manufacturing Company. That's about it. I'll asks Woogers too, thanks for telling me. Enclavehunter (talk) 16:59, August 4, 2012 (UTC)

Nation Problem
Hey UP, Super and I have budded heads again. I made the Stratocratic Coalition my moderate nation, but Super claims Nigeria as a part of his SAC. Additionally, there is the issue of claims IC. I made the SC to reserve those for the moderate nation, but Super speaks otherwise. He is threatening administrative action. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 14:09, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Like last time, he created this ploy only after discovering my plans to take Nigeria. Afghanistan was his moderate nation, and now this SC, which used to be a normal alliance, has become his moderate nation. Regardless, if you (UP), decide that Nigeria goes to me, Viva is henceforth banned from Future World. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 14:13, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

I reserve the right to swith my canidate nation, and you only claimed that nation as I added the uncounted sectors to Huria, henceforth assu.int that you only ,ade the attempt in belief I would try something like this. And I the coalition for the sole purpose of protecting those claims to begin with.--<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 14:35, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

I am done arguing with you. You know you acted unfairly, and reserving is not an IC issue, it's OOC. Like many people took nations from PAFF and OIS and the UN, I am taking Nigeria from the SC. That doesn't matter anyways, as you fail to see how things work here in Future World. From the start, you have acted like we all owe you something. It ends here, should UP decide to abstain or give Nigeria to me. Don't waste your time trying to argue this any further. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 14:56, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Regardless of whetjer your done or not, this needs to be said. When I join I never said anyone owed me anything. When I made Mandinka, it was in fact you who I owed you respect you never earned. YOU said I had to be afraid of the ASA. YOU said I was powergaming when I wasn't afraid. YOU were the one that threw a fit and left Future World when I told that Mandinka didn't have to fear your nation. I respect you way too much to call you out on everything you've said and done. I can't say much myself, but I can say I never demanded anything of anyone but some common sense in regards to reading an article. Don't you dare try to pass that off as fact. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 18:47, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

That's just the thing, there are never any consequences for you. The entire world can bunch together and fight you: Huria will prevail! We can all OOCly agree that Huria is taking it too far: nah-ah, you won't give in! I practically BEGGED you on my knees to halt Huria's expansion when Huria just consisted of Madagascar and a bit of East Africa; you told me you'd stop, but every now and then you claim more territory and spin some excuse that your troops had been there all along. I don't give a shit where your troops were. I wanted you to stop, you said you were going to, but you didn't. Even when I was ejecting the Allied States from Future World, I made one final attempt to see if you'll budge, I nuked your capital, but in less than a split-second, you had another, "fortress capital." The most recent was just when I created the SAC, I told you again, that Huria's territory stops here, but now you have parts of the Caribbean Community and Liberia and Sierra Leone.

You know damn well that I have always tried to be fair, especially when it comes to you, but with these recent few acts where you've made it abundantly clear that you think Future World revolves around you and you won't stop for shit, I have drawn the line. You think I wanted Nigeria yesterday? No, I was convinced Huria was finally at a stop, but no, I was wrong, so now I am taking Nigeria, and you better believe I will take other parts of Africa too just to point out how ridiculous this has become. If you even hope to want to carry on playing on Future World, you will start playing by my rules in addition to Future World's rules. I have never been like this with ANYONE on Conworlds before, so just that should point out to you what effect your activities here are having on myself and arguably on the rest of the community. Get yourself on the same page as the rest of us and then I will allow you to stay, and then I will decide where Huria's territories stand. You have done a damn good job with Huria and I have been looking to your articles for inspiration on several of my projects, but I will not allow Huria to go any further than how it looked on when I created the SAC. If you want to keep pushing it, you're out of here. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 19:34, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

You mean in the same way if Huria fought Everett Everett would win? I never said my armies were invcinible. Since when did I? I could read your talk page, and there were no signs of begging, only requests. My nation has moved around the map, yes, but that came as a part of my inabilty to settle on a location. What has gone to far is Everett's tech, Austraila's military size, and the EAF's spaceship thingy. I added sectors that I forgot', not ones I just decided "Hey, I think I'll take over Barbados today!" Super, as I said before, I respect you too much to call you out, but this is true. You and UP were extremely arrogant when I joined. I was in the process of asking UP to end the Brazil invasion when he opened his mouth. I said I didn't know why I invade Brazil, UP interrupts and says because I felt like being unrealistic. I took that as a scoff, and decided to finish what I started instead of take the blow. Now we're here. Ever since I joined, I had to deal with the anger, and the ignorance. The first post on Huria's talk page was insulting, and even though I explained several times the divergences in Huria's history, no one wanted to listen. I explain over, and over again in the best possible way the reality of Huria's position, and no one listened. I try so hard and no one cared, Horton even got smart about it with me. This is why the game is dying, arrogance, one-up manship, and unrealism. I made Huria the way it is tosurvive the game, not take over/destroy it. I want to stay, bu I want you to know why Huria is like this. Once again, sorry for the text wall.--<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 19:50, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well I am telling you that Huria can't be that way anymore. If you want it like that, I'd recommend, again, that you make Huria independent and join Future World with a nation which you planned, and one which will not expand. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 20:00, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I stopped Super. I told you that. On top of that, I even told you why; maintainence. When I added those extra sectors, I was adding areas that were uner Hurian control, but that I forgot to handle amist the issues surrounding the SAC, and a series of other matters. Also, you took Nigeria not for any logical reason that I'm aware of, but to counter Hurian expansion that ended with the treaty's creation. Allow me to say this: If Huria has been responsible for much of Nigeria's IC stability, why on earth would they just up and flee to the SAC when they risk annihilation? Same for Zimbabwe. Why would Robert Mugabe fear for his life when the most powerful nation in Africa was protecting him? Your excuses to get additional states for the SAC made no sense. Henceforth my opposition to them. But, I doubt you care anymore about than I do right now. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 20:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

The irony in your post Viva, it makes me laugh. -Sunkist- (talk) 19:59, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Still have your sense of humor I see. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 20:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Slightly unrelated, but what spaceship thing do you speak of, so I can get rid of it? It keeps coming up and I'm tired of hearing about it. Woogers - talk 20:05, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * The flying super fortress thing shaped like a manta or something similar. I like it too much for you to get rid of it Woogers. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 20:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

The Space Tether, but this is Future World. I see no problem in it, because nations are expected to have unique tech bonuses. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - Skandinavia   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 20:14, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Well in the end, the game is unrealistic, and I could really care less about the flow and ebb of the other nations. Now where's UP. We need a full house now. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 20:53, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Viva, you can't make the Stratocratic Coalition a nation. It would just be an expansion of Huria, and, besides, the NAFO was there first. 77topaz (talk) 23:32, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * Super said himself that alliance can't be used for reservations, and so long as you have the space for a moderate or weak nation, you can do so. I plan on reworking Huria as a new nation to get past the issues that plagued it. So for the time being, Huria is basically no longer in FW. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 23:37, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

The Stratocratic Coalition is an organisation as well, though. And what's with that bit about Huria dragging its allies out of the NAFO? That sounds a lot like military activity/attacks, which would not be tolerated (I doubt Hurians would even be allowed into those nations, and, by joining the NAFO, the nations proved they weren't really Huria's allies). 77topaz (talk) 23:44, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Its true, but don't worry your head about it. I'm planning something else. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 23:49, August 10, 2012 (UTC)

Not another war, I hope? 77topaz (talk) 23:54, August 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm not doing this again. I'm in too good of a mood to start with another user over this. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 00:00, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well, what is it you're planning, then? 77topaz (talk) 00:06, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'm making a new nation in Southeast Asia. Kinda like Huria but with Asians. And I really like the Orient. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 00:17, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Are you still going to do anything with Afghanistan? And can Ruthenia be put up for adoption? 77topaz (talk) 00:52, August 11, 2012 (UTC)


 * I plan on using Afghanistan in the near future, and you can help yourself to Ruthenia. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 01:01, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

So I take it this matter is resolved, and we can all move on with our lives? --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 04:19, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

You'll have to wait until Super and/or UP are back, probably, since it was Super who started this section. 77topaz (talk) 07:01, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

I am over it, but I am telling you, I won't hesitate to go all out against your new country if it goes down the same road as Huria. I am going to do a few housekeeping things around Future World now or in the near future, so we can really clear things up. I am asking you nicely to take it easy, and don't overdo the whole badass thing ICly again. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 13:32, August 11, 2012 (UTC)

Everett and Brazil
How is my nation looking so far? I was also wondering if Everett and Brazil could be allies? I like your core beliefs and the basic structure of your government. And your president is hot.... lol. Do you have any suggestions for other allies? LIKE A BOSS, PSYRAX (Speak Your Peace) 22:05, August 23, 2012 (UTC)

Your country is looking really good so far. Keep working and you can join in. And, your President is hot too, LMAO. I see you have already talked to Minecraftian and Woogers. You can also ask User:Enclavehunter, his country is the United States and User:Super Warmonkey, his country is Benelux. Everett and Brazil can be badass allies. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 07:27, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Forgiveness, Something, Something
Ugh, I've come back prodigal son like. Hopefully without any swearing, anger, dragging other users in, and stuff like that, I'd like to come back to Future World. I've learned my lesson, and I hope that you can respond in a kind civil manner. I feel that enough time has passed, and I can start anew. Now that I know what I can do, I won't copy pasta parts of Everett to make my nation, and I'll try to make my new one plausible. Amends? --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 02:49, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Well good sir, I appreciate the apology. Develop your candidate nation and we will see how it turns out. While you have been gone, I myself have been reorganizing and re-writing parts of Everett. This is a longer process for me as I have far more articles to deal with and I am still busy. Welcome back. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 07:24, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

Thank you. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 15:22, August 30, 2012 (UTC)

UP, I want to apoligise for the issues that have arisen over the last five months. I was hoping to join and work in Future World without any drama, and my invasion of Brazil was sometihng I hoped to resolve early on. Though we still have many political and ideological differences, I do hope that we can work together without any major problems in the forseable future. Would you be willing to accept? --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 01:24, September 3, 2012 (UTC)

American Politics
UP, I need your help. As you know more about the politics of this great land, exactly how much control does the average American have over the actions of a Congressman? And more importantly, how does that Congressman keep getting re-elected by well-informed American citizens? --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 20:13, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

UP, I also need your help. I am confused about a certain American trait: xenophobia. We have xenophobia here too, but it seems that a few young conservative Americans in the Midwest are a real irrational dislike of foreigners Vivaporius might dislike me because I'm South African. I was recently attacked by one such individual, claiming that my geographical location on Earth is hindering me from understanding certain "by-the-book", "etiquette" if you will. Stuff like, one congressman, one vote. Where does this xenophobia come from? Did foreigners, apart from the British and Arabs, of course, launch some sort of attack on America which I am aware of? -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 20:24, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Say it as it is Super. And the same could be said about a certain liberal South African who might appear to think more of his knowledge on America. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 20:44, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * That certain liberal South African has spent hours upon hours researching the American legal, political and military system to improve his American conworlds. That same liberal South African, on a daily basis, reads the American news and is subscribed to several American political feeds on his Facebook, which update by the minute with happenings within the United States. Of course, the young xenophobic Midwestern conservative thinks he need only be born in America and speculate to "know more." I read about those experiments where American doctors inject knowledge into the brains of unborn American fetuses. It's a shame that I missed that. Guess I'll have to take the conventional route of actually studying. What a burden. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 20:56, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well this certain Midwestern American was born here, raised here, and studied everything on the nation he lives in. I never said I know more, just that I'm better informed on how this nation works. As I said, and you've so often stated yourself, its one thing to read about something, but a totally different thing to actually live it. Your insults caling me xenophobic and and a dumbf*** only prove my point. Not only have you purposefully ignored me when I tried to explain the reason I would be better informed about American politics, you went defensive. I never was xenophobic, you only said so when I mentioned that a South African who has never been to America, and only knows America from reading about it and talking to people who have called Americans stupid, cannot know more than an actual American who tried to reason with him and only got a negative from doing so. Your only comments were "This is beautiful", "Just vote for the right Congressman", and "Americans are idiots". I kept telling you why that was wrong, but you refused to listen. Calling me a xenophobic Midwestern American won't take away from the fact that you, not me, think you know more than the person who has been on this Earth longer than yourself (though not able to comprehend to many facts until a decade ago), and was raised in the country you aspire to live in. Could I properly say that I know more about the Holocaust that a Holocaust survivor simply because I spent years researching it, pouring over the information, and talking to those who also read about it? I won't answer that because I don't believe I need to. And rage-quitting chat makes you look bad by the way. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 21:07, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

I know exactly how rage-quitting looks, but once the other party keeps repeating himself over, and over, and over, even though I replied and asked questions, there is no need for the conversation to continue at its current trend.

Don't try to modify the context, Viva. You said Americans were not united in a sense of brotherhood, and that states want to secede. You referred me to a referendum, and after countless lines of arguing, I told you, fine, if Congress grants Puerto Rico independence, you've been right all along. You replied with "The President grants independence, but through Congress!" Thus, my point remained: If Congress does NOT allow the President to grant independence to a state, THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED CONGRESS by the AMERICAN PEOPLE has spoken, and thus AMERICANS are UNITED in A SENSE OF BROTHERHOOD. This led to the Congressional debate you bring oh-so out of context to UP. '''I don't think Americans are stupid and ill-informed. I am trying to point out that IF INDEED CONGRESS BLOCKS THE PRESIDENT GRANTING INDEPENDENCE, the people those Congressmen represent, have SPOKEN -''' SINCE THEY PUT THEM THERE. Then you started going on about how evil and bad Congress actually is, which I disagree with. I was trying to get you to admit that Americans are just stupid to put crap Congressmen in Congress - SINCE THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE IMPLYING.


 * You vote for REPUBLICAN X
 * Because REPUBLICAN X is a "true American patriot" who believes in the Union
 * TEXAS WOAH WANTS TO SEPARATE FROM THE UNION!!!!!!
 * PRESIDENT Mitt Romney says OK GOVNUR PERRY GO RIGHT AHEAD K!?
 * REPUBLICAN X and his fellow elected American patriots save the day by BLOCKING FASCIST MITT ROMNEY from granting independence to A BUNCH OF LUNATICS
 * The people of REPUBLIC X's district either:
 * COMPLAIN BECAUSE HE BLOCKED THE SECESSION (you know, doing his job and shit)
 * COMPLAIN BECAUSE HE "YAY'D" THE SECESSION (you know, being a traitor and all)
 * It doesn't matter why they complain, since THEY VOTED FOR HIM, and WILL PROBABLY VOTE FOR HIM AGAIN

You have thrown this out of context to make you look like the one defending the ways of the United States. It boils down to you thinking ya'll Americans are extremely divided without that "brotherhood" thing you have going on, and me thinking you indeed do have that "brotherhood" thing going on, and that nobody is going to secede in the foreseeable future.

And yes, you are a fucking xenophobe. You have admitted that you'll camp out on the border, armed, and keep illegal immigrants out. No matter how illegal it is, that's fucking lunacy. Then you march in here a while back, acting the "expert on Nigeria" and anything Sub-Saharan. No, Super Warmonkey is wrong, it's NOT LIKE HE FUCKING LIVES IN THE GHETTO OF THE WORLD?! HMM?

Now Super Warmonkey comes, on a subject he has done research on, and knows for a fact that the people of a Congressional district get to decide who they want to represent them in Congress, as well as vote for their Senators at large. Then you come up with bullshit excuses like Americans will vote for their congressmen because they bribe them with jobs. YOU ARE ADMITTING THAT AMERICANS ARE FUCKING STUPID. You vote for the right guy, and if there isn't one, you don't fucking vote and keep your fucking trap shut about anything the guy does because YOU DIDN'T VOTE. Or you run yourself if you think the entire system is broken and you are being oh so oppressed.

Stop feeling sorry for yourself. You live in a country which has been labeled the "Free World." You have the strongest economy and your political system, for all intents and purposes, works.

-Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 21:31, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Oh, and to add, you have numerous times stated that you don't give a rat's ass about what is happening to foreigners in other countries. Since you brought my location in, I'll bring our religion in. Don't fucking ever call yourself a Christian again if you think you can just take care of "me and mine" and leave the rest of the world to the hounds. You are a xenophobe, and a very, very cold person. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 21:36, September 4, 2012 (UTC)
 * Well I'm not ging to argue with you then. You'll always feel entitled to be an American citizen, and I'm not going to bother arguing wit your flwed opinions. And I don't recall ever feeling sorry for myself. Either way, do what you do best, and wait for UP's response, cause right now, I believe he'll be more reasonable than you. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 21:43, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * At least I did him the favor of putting it back in context. And once again with your little xenophobic attitude. Even if I were neutralized as an American right now, you'd just play the "I was born here card." Don't say I am not reasonable while you're high on your own Americanism. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 21:45, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * I'll call myself a Christian whenever I feel like it. The fact that I plan to adhere to laws stated in it give me more of a right to call myself one. If you can ignore the part about getting married and sticking to one mate, I can just as well ignore the part about loving my neighbor. Deal with it. I said a naturalized American would know more about America because he would living in America. I kept repeating myself because you said you were not listening. I said I would hunt down illegal immigrants. I also said I wasn't, from the beginning, not talking of myself in regards to complaining about the government, but how most Americans felt about it. And you aren't reasonable. You feel entitled to live here regardless of any American, civilian or government says. I never said all states wanted to sucede, just some. You make foreigners look bad because of your belief of self-entitlement. I am not a xenophobe, I just hate those who believe they deserve something because they want more. I don't want more, I'm perfectly content. I never said I was an expert on anything Sub-Saharan, but you said that you were an expert on everything American because you read about it. You said you know more about Africa because you live there. You are very greedy and egostical person. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 22:05, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * Then I guess we're both hypocritical Christians? I'll kick most eighteen year olds in your country's asses if were were to get in a political debate about America right now. Believe it or not, I don't live in Conworlds, I have seen the extent of a large portion of the American youth's knowledge about their own country.


 * I also repeatedly told you that I had read your bullshit and I kept replying to it, yet you just kept throwing my replies out and repeating yourself, justifying it as "your not listening."


 * You said you would hunt down illegal immigrants. Now tell me again you're not a xenophobe? This is lunacy. You're not a law enforcer. You're just high on your own Americanism again. Illegal immigrants aren't out to get you, they're in a desperate situation trying to make a life for themselves. However, you and I will fundamentally disagree about this, since I am a "love thy neighbor" kind of guy, and you're admittedly not.


 * I didn't say you were the one complaining. I said the people from those congressional districts need to shut the fuck up if they don't vote (however, they do vote - seemingly for the "evil" congressmen of our time)


 * I never said I am entitled to live there. Believe it or not, I am willing to go through all the processes. I don't deserve America, I want America, just like hundreds of millions of others out there. You're like the royal kid born into the castle, looking down from his window upon the peasants who dream of one day just going inside.


 * I never said you said all states wanted to secede. I am just saying that NO states will secede within the foreseeable future.


 * I also never said I was an expert on everything American. I said that if Puerto Rico isn't independent in January (as you think the secessionists want to leave and thus will), then I am the expert and I was right. Obviously I was being sarcastic to point out your flawed views of your own country.


 * You can know just as much as I do about Africa if you do sufficient research. You won't know the feeling or exactly the type of society we live in, however, our argument is about something extremely simple: 1) States will/won't secede 2) Congress is/is not democratically elected 3) Naturally born Americans automatically know more/don't know more about America than anyone else.


 * Greedy, oh yes I am. Yet, I plan on working towards those things I long for. My ego only comes out when I am taunted by bigots. Our debate was going fine until you brought my geographical location into the equation, which had absolutely nothing to do with what we were discussing. You just saw a cheap opportunity and took it. I did not once call you out as bias on the side of black people because you are black. I had many chances of calling you a black supremacist, but I didn't. Somewhat because of my respect for other people in general and my level of maturity. I don't take cheap shots.

-Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 22:30, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

I haven't read the rest of your comment because I might see something I don't like and say something that drags this conversation on. I respect you too much to do that. But let me make this clear, since I'm to pretty to go to jail, I would have to go through the proper channels to become a border patrol agent or ICE member. I believe you said you would sneak in if need be, but that is something you have cleared up. Now I do believe a good number of those 11 million illegal immigrants are criminals, so I'm perfectly within my right to want to hunt them down. Now, I suggest we either move this thing elewhere, or, forget the whole thing ever happened and delete the entire thing. And yes, I am not the "love thy neighbor" kind of guy. I care only for thpse I know and fellow citizens. Live with it or don't. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 22:41, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

You most definitely will see something you don't like: just like I saw something I didn't like either. It's extremely disrespectful to disregard the excessive amount of knowledge I have about the US just because I am a foreigner. You can do whatever you want with this. It was between us and you brought it here; makes no difference to me. Perhaps you should have stated at some point during that conversation that you were interested in becoming a border patrol agent. Yeah, of course some of them are criminals, but don't go making them all out to be such. Yeah, I'll live with that, but it remains a cold view in my opinion. I don't like it one bit. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 22:46, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

How could I possibly be a bigot because I mentioned you geographical location? And look up the definition of black supremist. You'll see I'm nothing of the sort, nor do have any desire to be like them. I made every effort to prove that, so no you could not call me one. I'm I an afro-centric? Absolutely. Ad like yourself, there were a number of things I could hae could you, and have been perfectly in the right for doing so. That "cheap opprotunity" was me pointing out that you are on the other side of the globhaving informaton is nice, but pointless without having firsthand knowledge. I don't know more about Norway than a Norwegia because haven't been there yet. I've read about it, the politcs, and the culture. But actually being there to live the life and experiene it is a competely different thing. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 22:51, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * That didn't stop the global community from taking a dump on South Africa's head for Apartheid, and although I hate that policy, I can use that exact situation against you: how could all those governments and people keep commenting on our situation here, when they didn't have permanent feet on the ground here? I have learned about your country, and although simple academics can only bring me that far, our debate was still centered around extremely simple subjects which I was well within the right to comment on. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 23:05, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

It was indeed just between me and you, and as you will I never told UP the deal, just that I wanted some help understanding something. You brought the argument here, not me. --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 23:02, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * So it's wrong for me to defend myself in public? You provided no context as to your query and what it was originally about. There's a difference between me telling you that Americans are idiots, and me trying to get you to say Americans are idiots because I need to point out the flaws of your argument. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px]] 23:05, September 4, 2012 (UTC)


 * UP would have had no idea that my question had anything to do with an argument until you mentioned it. I had no plans on telling him anything about it because he didn't need to know. I need no reason to ask UP a question regarding American politics since he already knows more about it than I do, and he would probably never asked why. If so, I would simply said I was just interested. And I don't need you to tell me Americans are stupid. I good portion of them are, the vast majority of them aren't. A real man will pick cans for a living to provide for his family. If he had a chane to get a paying job, well aware that he had to vote, his family means more than a politician's long-term goals. He will take the job for his family, not because he is stupid. He will fight back later on, and deal with the consequences then. And there are many other issues that surround the political world in America. From my perspective, your reason is black and white. Your well informed on the issues, but to me, your reasoning is more like either press the red or blue button. To me and others, its more of cut two of the brown wires (and their all different shades of brown), and avoid the spiders (and I have not light to see them). --<font COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..." 23:29, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

WAT. Good sirs, please repeat your questions below this clusterfuck of arguing so I can address them without spending the next hour reading the above. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 23:58, September 4, 2012 (UTC)

QUESTIONS GO HERE:

Don't worry. Super and I resolved the problem. Sorry we carried this out on your page, we got carried away. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 00:39, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

UP, I want to apoligize (again), for what I said abut KK. I just don't like being told how to think and feel, and I really didn't mean what I said. I'm easily provoked into doing and saying stupid things, and I'm working on that. --<FONT COLOR="878787">"Truth fears no questions..."</FONT> 01:47, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Atlion
Hey UP, is it possible for me. Get in on the Atlion thing, or have all the states gone? --Falloutfan08 (talk) 07:23, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Anyone can join in at this point. Unlike what you're hearing from Sunkist, the map is not decided on and is not properly divided. I told them to hold off on land claims until other players confirmed their participation. All you need to do is come up with a state name and your outline until the map is completed and fairly prepared for all users who will join. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 08:40, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Never did I say anything like, I simply told him..Wow. I don't even want to do this. -Sunkist- (talk) 08:41, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just saying, because apparently, the dividing of Ackerland is an issue for you, even though you knew other players may join. We need a proper design of a map that can accommodate all the players who are going to participate. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 08:44, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

The way you divided it up made me unhappy, it's a terrible place to put a new player. Most people will want water access. -Sunkist- (talk) 08:46, September 5, 2012 (UTC)

Damage control






Hey, uh, I know you're busy, but the Atlion group needs your guidance or something. It's difficult for us to handle OOC management issues when you're not around. People are starting to leave and it seems that this is going to tip over soon. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 14:06, September 8, 2012 (UTC)

Can people stop messing up the maps? Or do I have to create one myself? Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 02:02, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

We need the geography of Albion - RIGHT NOW. I am being extremely candid now. This has been tossing on for too long now. -Signed by Super Warmonkey, please refer to these pages for more: (talk • contribs) 14:52, September 9, 2012 (UTC)

Why is there a map with new borders? I thought we weren't going to change the borders anymore. And that map at the bottom would destroy Edwardsland and New Welland. 77topaz (talk) 08:11, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Because Sunkist has apparently demanded that he wants his country Ackerland to have plains territories. But then again, he has flip flopped again, seeking a "appalachian hilly" type geography. I really don't know until Sunkist can make up his mind. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 09:31, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

It's a shame I didn't get those mountains I lobbied for, but at least it's done now. Thanks. -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) 18:31, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

I kinda made Ixania because I wanted the geography the way I planned, like on its page. So...yeah. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 19:15, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

This is regressive. We need to get moving in the forward direction. Backward or stagnation is a bad idea. -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) 19:22, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

I want some applachian hilly terrain. Can we not give Super his desired land too? -Sunkist- (talk) 20:09, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

I am happy that we are at the point of actually having geography. Changing it now will be a step in the wrong direction. -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) 20:11, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Don't we already have a geography map? On gyazo.com? 77topaz (talk) 20:20, September 10, 2012 (UTC)


 * That was just a proposal. -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) [[Image:Flag of the Allied States of America.png|25px|link=Allied States of America]] 20:25, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

And, by the way, can we finalise the state populations, so I know how many people there are in Vlorast and how big the cities can be etc.? 77topaz (talk) 20:22, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

I guess it's up to everyone independently. I just want the highest population by at least 10 million, thus, anything under 14,000,000 is good. -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) 20:25, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

That map doesn't include my state --Falloutfan08 (talk) 20:30, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

The geography map doesn't take into account the geography map I already made for Ixania. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 21:37, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Our pages are still drafts. Do you remember when we agreed that night to join Atlion? We all said we'll be making drafts. These are drafts. UP is in charge and he has decided on the geography. Let's adapt and take it as it comes. -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) 21:53, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

That means I have to make two new maps, re-write Ixania's geography and demographic information, and move the sky to fit UP's map simply because he didn't look at the geography of Ixania. ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 22:52, September 10, 2012 (UTC)

Super wanted mountains, and I wanted mountains! I agree with the mountains on the gyazo map more than this one. 77topaz (talk) 04:55, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm quite busy. I will get to adding some more black and red lines for all you mountain folk. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 07:16, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Why aren't Edwardsland and New Welland on your map? 77topaz (talk) 09:17, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Viva, keep you Ixania terrain. It is fine. The climate map I provided is a very basic and general climate map, which shows only basic levels of climate, terrain and geography. It is your duties, as players, to place in further detail, the terrain and shit about your states. I'm only trying to give a basic outline. The old state divisions are now restored, New Welland and Edwardsland have been placed back. Ham Ham Time (User/Talk/World/WAT) 03:25, September 12, 2012 (UTC)

Dude, I want to bring Huria back. I reduced the size of the nation to the levels Super wanted (back to East Africa). ((ლ( (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ( 05:36, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Dat video
Can you link me the video that is making muslims so butthurt? (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - Skandinavia   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 17:45, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

I think this is it: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAiOEV0v2RM -Signed by Warmonkey (talk • contribs) 17:47, September 16, 2012 (UTC)

Thanks (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (  Duestchland - Texas - Oil City - Skandinavia   ) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 17:49, September 16, 2012 (UTC)