User blog comment:Centrist16/SOMETHING EVERYONE MUST KNOW/@comment-3398633-20150809140026/@comment-3398633-20150813010215

Rojava ain't socialists. The Kurds like to fancy themselves socialists, but they aren't. Just because they employ women in their forces, hate God, and use the color red on everything, doesn't mean they are socialists now. Mondragon exists under a capitalist system. I want to see it sustaining itself without a capitalist economy supporting it. Socialism, just like capitalism, causes death and misery. Leopold II did exactly what Lenin and Stalin did, but under a different economic system. Force the people to work, and punish them if they didn't meet their quotas.

There was more death and misery under socialist states that under capitalist ones. More than 100 million people died in China, the Soviet Union, Ethiopia, and Cuba just to name a few in the last century. Like I said before, I'll go with experts and the records on what is socialist and what is not. And on Yugoslavia, the pressure came from economic woes which its socialist economy could not support. The seperatism didn't become an issue until after the Yugoslav recession in the late-80s. Socialism is unpopular around the globe for a reason.

The majority of socialists don't know how to manage an economy, and they tend to hail from the improvished sections of society, hence the reason they appeal to the poor. Mind you, its typically those without money or an education promoting the ideals of socialism. You rarely see individuals with a good education, a degree in economics, or from a well-to-do background extolling socialism as the next big thing.