User blog comment:Centrist16/SOMETHING EVERYONE MUST KNOW/@comment-3398633-20150809140026/@comment-1045231-20150814190345

Again. There have been very few actual socialist communities. All of those 32 countries save maybe Cuba were authoritarian and claiming to be socialist to legitimize. I don't want to continue debating them, because they aren't socialist. And Zapatistas (at least in Chiapas) are not hated, rather the Mexican government is. US right wing imperialism (operation condor, etc.) and puppets (eg Pinochet) were far worse than any quasi-left-wing governments there.

Managers and workers have an artificial divide. Managers should be democratically elected by workers. But my problem is with owners, and I've explained why earlier. Scandinavia is alright because they tamed capitalism, created a welfare state, and protected worker's rights. But those are all under fire now and it was fueled by oil and economic imperialism. I'd bet most socialists don't care about capitalist economics because they thing they want to leave that system.