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Why have state-level parties if state government isn't the end-all, be-all government in At lion's politics? There aren't generally different parties at the state and federal level, because that disrupts campaign coordination. Usually, the state party and the national party are the same, but each state would have a party committee that would govern party affairs in the state. Woogers - talk (Flag of IvaliceFlag of the East Asian Federation) 15:51, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Well yes, we experience that in American politics, but we also have other countries, which I have noticed, have locally-orientated parties. These two liberal parties officially endorse the DRP on federal level and make out a large part of its employees in Broker, but they are split because they differ on some state issues. Perhaps if we can develop Atlion's political system more, I can make it only the DRP and the CP, but right now, only Sunkist, Viva and I have political parties. On another note, I am also expecting each player to have his own federal political party. But yeah, this is just drafting and brainstorming - I'd love to make it simpler, but like I said, we need to start developing ATLION at the same time as our individual states, as that was the entire point of the game. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 16:34, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

But as the way things are going, each state is developing into its own fiefdom with no unity whatsoever. Everything is completely different to the point that each state may as well be its own country. There's no coordination. There's a fascist state, there's a corporate state, and there's a vertically-integrated state. None share any similarity or unity besides each state's country being Atlion. It's not right, I think. Woogers - talk (Flag of IvaliceFlag of the East Asian Federation) 16:46, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

No duh. Of course they don't share any similarities, that was the point. I have a former French slave colony, Sunkist has a Bavarian colony, MC has a post-French colony, and everybody else is just up there. If we wanted to make a culturally homogenous nation, we might as well just make an Everett wiki, and do whatever UP instructs us. You still get to pick the color of your people, and their "preferred" religion, but the federal government will crush state rights at the slightest hint you decide to vote Conservative. ((ლ(() (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ(() 17:01, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

I'm just throwing this out there, but wouldn't making Atlion a confederacy not only be a smart thing to do, but the easiest as well? I'm just sitting back and wondering who in God's good name (oh yeah, UP, hur), would make Atlion a republic? In most normal cases, a number of former countries joining into a single nation for the good of all would be classed as a confederacy, giving the states great leeway in developing their areas freely, while leaving the central government to handle all foreign issues. This way, the government doesn't infringe on the state's rights, and the states still answer to the national government. Still a nation, but more flexiable. The nation government would only interfere in state matters if it affects the nation as a whole. ((ლ(() (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ(() 16:54, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

I oppose this idea. The ENTIRE idea behind creating Atlion was to create ONE unified country. I agree with Woogers that currently we're not united at all, but nobody has any interest in continuing with the constitution and everyone is just basically waiting for someone else to make a move. A confederacy is a bad idea, and a federation was a bad idea; hence why I proposed we have a unitary state. You all outvoted me and now the issues I expected are coming up. We chose a federal system, so we'll stick with it.

Also, Broker is NOT AT ALL a corporate state, if that's what you're referring to. Statesport is New York City and the rest of the state is just Southern California. I have yet to get to the culture, which I suck at. Once things get moving more smoothly, there will be unity. Ixania will be taken to the supreme court and anyone who follows in its wake. We'll fix this; but UP has to tell us when he is getting a vacation away from college. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 17:22, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

No, Ackerland is corporate. And we all did vote on the issues brought to the constitution, they just have to be put into formal words. Woogers - talk (Flag of IvaliceFlag of the East Asian Federation) 17:24, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

We did, but the Civil Instructions Act only got three votes, and it needs to pass for the constitution to have any validity. If it is voted down, we can delete the constitution page. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 17:32, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Ixania vs. Republic of Atlion? No evidence no nothing. I'm rather amazed that our government is already corrupt. ((ლ(() (ಠ益ಠ) ((ლ(() 17:26, September 11, 2012 (UTC)

Republic of Atlion vs. Ixania - That will happen if you defy the constitution. It's IC, don't take it up personally. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 17:32, September 11, 2012 (UTC)
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