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Archive I


Chicago Defense Forces
Central Command
Chicago Defense Forces - Military Districts
Map of the regional commands of the Chicago Defense Forces
Active 1968–Present
Country Flag of Chicago Federal Republic of Chicago
Type Regional Military District
Size 48,970 personnel
Headquarters Hawthorne Barracks in Cicero, Cook County
Derrick Francis
Deputy Commander Richard Harper
Badge of Chicago Central Command Central Command Badge

The Chicagoan Central Command (typically abbreviated as CCC) is the Chicago Defense Forces regional command responsible for protection of the core territory of the Federal Republic of Chicago. The force is tasked with protecting Cook County, the heart of the nation.


I've lost interest in that game. The mods are biased and don't believe that a small and poor nation cannot rise to power, which is possible if you play your nation right. Which you did? They are also biased in favor of the United States and its allies, who seems to control the game, while the opposes are simply marked off because of "implausible" moves to combat each other. Trust me, Turkey could have survived if there wasn't biased mods. Enclavehunter (talk) 04:53, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

Exactly. Turkey collasped - because the mods felt it was threat to their nations and did not consider the plausible reason for it to survive. Enclavehunter (talk) 05:13, December 26, 2012 (UTC)

The fist 2 were fun, if a bit odd; but the 3rd and 4th games had 'power gaming'. Quebec's user was bulled out, The Northern Republic's missed a few turns and thought it was ASB and the CAR (me) thought it was too ASB and bias. I saw plenty of 'power gaming', but what was meat by 'metagaming'? 03:05, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Honourable Union of Ixania

Great idea. 03:05, January 7, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you. Flag of the Hurian Federation Vivaporius: "I don't need a slogan" 23:16, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Chicago - Deseret Relations

What would be the government and public opinion of Deseret in the eyes of the people of FRC? Enclavehunter (talk) 04:32, January 16, 2013 (UTC)

Candidate Future World

You currently have three massive nations in the candidate category. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 12:04, January 25, 2013 (UTC)

Viva, did you notice the message I left at your Lovian talk page? 77topaz (talk) 20:19, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

Well, voting for the Supreme Court judges is on and I've put forward a candidate for the GP. 77topaz (talk) 21:30, February 21, 2013 (UTC)

It's located here, btw. 77topaz (talk) 19:05, February 25, 2013 (UTC)


So I really dig the Hurian Space Empire, and I want to see it all in a scope. Do you have a map of the planets in relation to Earth? (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 02:19, March 8, 2013 (UTC)


Hi... how do you join the Future World thing??? Thanks, this is my country I made for it People's Alaska and North Pacific

Thank you! I will work on my country vigourously so it can be up there :) District10male (talk) 22:04, April 30, 2013 (UTC)

Are you sure ALL of that costs 81.5 Billion? I only made that amount so you could provide extra amounts of tanks and weapons onto the asked amount. I'd say the amount you gave me equal up to only about 26.3 Billion. This 80 billion contract will aid you in the constuction of ammunition, tank and aircraft factories inside of Columbia, and also buying of the goods. -Sunkist- (talk) 23:06, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

The map is awesome, I can't ask for any better. -Sunkist- (talk) 20:30, May 14, 2013 (UTC)


Hey, Viva. I was wondering if you could create another seating chart for the Parliament of the American Imperium?

Thanks, in advance. Enclavehunter (talk) 19:36, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. There are 400 seats (25 per district, plus 25 for the federal district). The majority is held by the Imperial Party at 256 (the color of them is dark red - for war and hate) and 144 seats are held by the Liberal Party (olive green - for peace and love) Enclavehunter (talk) 20:07, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Enclavehunter (talk) 22:23, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Hey! You're one of the best artists I've ever seen, I need some help on creating a logo for Lovia. We may be assembling a central bank called the Lovian National Reserves or it will be called simply the National Reserves. I'd like it to look something like the Federal Reserves emblem, or something of the sorts. Thanks. ---Sunkist- (talk) 02:48, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

If your still on, come chat. -Sunkist- (talk) 04:25, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

South Crossic-Kanian Relations

Well... I was already thinking to untie the SCR from the NRW because of widespread inactivity. But creating international relations requires some commitment and I don't have time available. If you still want to try, I'll not make opposition. Feel free to develop the necessary, and I'll help as much as possible. -- Cunha 10:34, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

I know that Kania isn't in the NRW. I just want to unlink the SCR from the NRW, because I don't really participate in it. But I see no problems in to link the SCR to Kania, or any other independent project, except my lack of time. -- Cunha 18:28, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

What art program do you use to make your emblems? -Sunkist- (talk) 22:21, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Help setting up an wiki

Hey, Viva. I was wondering if you could help me set up a wiki for my main project? Enclavehunter (talk) 16:07, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I know how to establish the wiki itself and create articles and stuff. What I need help with is templates, for like countries and equipment and stuff. Enclavehunter (talk) 16:18, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it is. I plan on continuing to have it on this wiki, but make a seperate wiki for the Imperium so I can develope all teh articles I want without having to keep using (AI) at the end. Enclavehunter (talk) 16:37, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

I'll tell you when I set up the wiki, thanks. Enclavehunter (talk) 16:41, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Viva, if its not too much trouble, I was wondering if you could help me make a general Infobox Template for the SubWorld Wiki? Falloutfan08 ~ Talk ~ SubWorld Wiki 16:52, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yep, did it about a month ago, I sort of rebooted the project. Cheers, (as in Thanks, I dont believe Americans use Cheers as in Thanks?) Falloutfan08 ~ Talk ~ SubWorld Wiki 17:04, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

I made the wiki, it can be located at: [1] Enclavehunter (talk) 18:34, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, Viva. Not to sound demanding or anything, but I was wondering if you could fix the officeholder template on my wiki. I tried making an profile for my prime minister and it is messing up ounce I put information in besides the birth. Enclavehunter (talk) 02:44, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Enclavehunter (talk) 22:39, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

South Africa

So you said you wanted to join me in a collaborative project with one of your nations and South Africa? What do you have in mind? -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 21:45, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

You sir, have built something beautiful. -Sunkist- (talk) 05:03, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Congratulations on adminship! TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 20:13, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

If it turns into a tyranny, I can still fire you. :P TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 20:28, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

So smooth (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 04:08, June 10, 2013 (UTC)


It sets a dangerous precedent when you start banning/punishing or threatening to ban or punish someone for having a hostile tone. We need to be systematic about this and have rules. Punishments on this Wikia are a rarity and I think perhaps we should keep it that way. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 21:26, June 14, 2013 (UTC)


I just bought the current full versions of Crusader Kings II (with all its expansions) and Victoria II (with all its expansions). We should be able to play together now if we can catch each other at a good time. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 23:29, June 21, 2013 (UTC)

Not Arabia yet. Just Germany. And wait up, lol - its on its way. And you really do spent a lot of time here, don't you. :D 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 12:02, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Hey, I was wondering if you could help me do a Linkbox for the bottom of some of the pages for Wessex and Cornwall? So I can tidy the category up a bit. I really must learn how to do these. :P --Falloutfan08 ~ Talk ~ SubWorld Wiki 17:50, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Cheers! --Falloutfan08 ~ Talk ~ SubWorld Wiki 18:23, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

Opinion on the NVS

Hey Viva.

I was wondering if I could get your opinion on an idea I've been thinking of for my independent project: the National Voting System.

The NVS would be a combination of websites (one for each of the three main languages: English, Spanish and French), mobile apps (one for Android and the other for iPhone), and mobile voting centers for those who can't afford computers. All three methods are encrypted, protected from hackers, cyberterrorists or the Chinese. From the three voting methods, the votes are sent to a secure data center in the middle of Kansas, where the votes are counted by three different computers (to ensure the results are not rigged), before sending the results to the government of the Imperium in Liberty, the new capitol of the country.

What do you think? Enclavehunter (talk) 20:38, July 12, 2013 (UTC)

I don't know. We are gaining members against germany all the time - and his war lasted like 2 years - not a great advantage. But if you will invade, then I'll send support. 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 22:47, July 14, 2013 (UTC)


There are three queens at a royal party. How many of them use the women's restroom? (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 23:28, July 14, 2013 (UTC)

Close. Only one, because two of them are those kind of Queens. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 12:54, July 15, 2013 (UTC)

Names of the Bodies of Water

I named all of the bodies of water that are international, I decided it would be best to leave the single nation bodies to that nation's decision on the names. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 14:02, July 17, 2013 (UTC)

Names of bodies of water map2

The  negative points last 15 years! We have a good deal of allies, including all of the German states existing. We also still have our usual allies existing. :D 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 14:59, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

We go in second - after the German nations attack each other. And congrats on becoming Admin here! :D 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 19:42, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Lol, not bad. I hopeits not as stressful as it is on the Althistory wiki! <:) 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 21:38, July 18, 2013 (UTC)


Would It be possible for me to adapt this language for use here? I already have a detailed phrasebook, dictionary and grammar stuff. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:12, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Now the only issue is how are we going to split up the land, since SW is back and he has plans for the yellow lands you gave me. HORTON11: Email iconFollow me 15:18, July 18, 2013 (UTC)

Fall of the East

I need Ixanians to constantly attack all territories past the Lilac and Lavendere Rivers from 370 ANC to 850 ANC (excluding the islands of Mognac and Portune). Not occupy, just keep them occupied by constantly attacking them. Then, out of nowhere, in 850 ANC the three regions will rise up again, together (as the reason they were so easily subdued is because there was major infighting), and beat the Ixanians back and enter into the early stages of the Renaissance. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 04:23, July 19, 2013 (UTC)


Calm down. We let him expand to the maximum, and when we strike, we destroy his completely - obliterate him. Although I too am getting annoyed about what is happening with Germany. I need them to hurry up, or I'll invade on my own. D: 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:11, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

And yet I am still more industrialised than him? And have at least 20x more people? So just take a breath in and be calm. We will attack, just wait. :D 1 Imp (Say Hi?!) 17:30, July 23, 2013 (UTC)

Plagiarism of other Conworlds?

Hi Vivaporius, I noticed that a new conworld called Tropicia is taking images from other conworlds. I just thought I should report it, cause if they were my images, I might be a little ticked. Ethandabomb (talk) 21:48, July 25, 2013 (UTC) 

California Republic

Hey Viva. I was wondering if you could check out the first part of the history of my new project: the California Republic. Enclavehunter (talk) 04:00, August 23, 2013 (UTC)

Pardon me, but...

Could you block thig anon? It constantly vandalizes my project and this page. --Agent001 15:27, August 31, 2013 (UTC)

Islamic Republic of Tawhid

Hey Viva.

I was wondering if I could adopt the Islamic Republic of Tawhid from you. Enclavehunter (talk) 03:31, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks. Enclavehunter (talk) 03:40, September 8, 2013 (UTC)

Red dots

Because the only person I found active who is using the red dots is currently, to my full extent of knowledge, offline. Do you perhaps know how to calculate the x and y on the pushpin location map for the city infobox template? Americanapparel (talk) 01:37, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

The Great Happening

Hey, is it true at all that there are MRAPs and national guard moving into and positioning themselves in areas of Chicago? MizzKeyes (Me/Say Hai/World/WAT) 06:22, September 27, 2013 (UTC)

Changes in the SCR

Hey Vivaporius, I'd really like your opinion of a fundamental change in the SCR that I'm thinking of doing:

Hundreds of kilometers from the Brazil's south coast there is a submarine elevation called the Rio Grande Rise. I always thought it was the ideal location for the SCR, but I never got the opportunity to do of a realistic way as I wanted.

I have ProFantasy Fractal Terrains (FT), and recently I adquire an Earth's map that I can manipulate using the program.

I made a new island to my country only increasing the Rio Grande Rise's altitude. This new island is smaller than the current one, but I do not think that's a problem, and is located further north as well.



What do you think? Cunha 00:47, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

The FT is a fantastic program! But it is best to have an Earth's map, and can change it as you want.
The explanation that I found for the existence of the Rio Grande Rise is that it is a rogue piece of the South American continent 200 million years ago. I'll keep that explanation, with the small difference that it is above the waters.
The area of the new island (actually an archipelago) is little more than 71.000km ², while the former island was about 113.000km ². Cunha 03:05, September 28, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Vivaporius, could you help me with the calculation of the new SCR's area? I've done the math, but I'm not sure if they are correct. Here is the .ftw Earth's map with the archipelago.

My method for calculating the area is:

1. I make an world blank map (in pixels: 3072x2289) using the equiretangular projection;
2. I make a zoom blank map (same proportion and projection);
3. I calculate the distance (in km) between the main island and Brazil at lat:30°S using the standard grid as guide in the world blank map;
4. In the Photoshop I convert this distance to pixels in the world blank map. So I can know how much is 1 pixel in square kilometers;
5. The Paint.NET give me the area in square pixels of each island (and, if necessary, also lakes) of the zoom blank map;
6. I do the calculations and I get the result in km².

However, I do not think this method reliable and so I'm not sure (especially when compared to the Hispaniola island in orthographic projection.)

I hope you can help me. Thanks in advance. Cunha 10:24, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

Viva, I really don't care about the size, since it's the right size. I wish I knew how did you calculated the area (if doesn't give you a lot of work)? And, one more time, thanks. Cunha 21:37, September 29, 2013 (UTC)

My method is more laborious, but I think it is more accurate than your method. Although I think I should use what I call the Cunha's factor: all values/3.6. I don't know why, but the result is more accurate! (Apparently).

I'm applying all my method and the Cunha's factor on a new SCR version (a new archipelago of 10 islands and about 27,400km ²). Cunha 21:58, September 29, 2013 (UTC)


So, Morgan will be a Republican? What made you turn to that? -Sunkist- (talk) 04:57, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

I had an idea for making a huge political compass for all of our characters, mind joining me on chat? -Sunkist- (talk) 05:56, November 19, 2013 (UTC)

I made this as a personal project a few months back. You can use it as a template if you wish. -Signed by Warmonkey (talkcontribs) Flag of the Allied States of America 12:40, November 19, 2013 (UTC)


At what level can a user delete a page? Could I possibly gain this position somehow? (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 23:16, November 26, 2013 (UTC)

how come you delted the rest of Kania? it was a good one. User:Soulslayer317


Hello Vivaporius.

Looking at the Wiki Activity, I spotted this user, and her avi looks particularly familiar. Is that account a sockpuppet of this previously banned user, making so my suspects true? --Agent001 14:08, December 6, 2013 (UTC)

Wiki RCS

Hey, Viva!

I'm creating the Wiki RCS (in Portuguese), it is more convenient for me. But I don't intend to abandon the SCR, it will remain on stand by for some time.

It has been more convenient to do in Portuguese, but I still suffered with the templates. Hehehe...

Cheers! -- Cunha 17:11, January 8, 2014 (UTC)

Hey, I'm going to do a large sci-fi conworld universe about multiple species, do you want to create a species for the conworld Storm 20:35, January 16, 2014 (UTC)

Thanks, for the life of me I could not work out how to change that error! Thanks for readin' --Falloutfan08 ~ Talk ~ SubWorld Wiki 20:53, March 1, 2014 (UTC)

21st Century World

Hi Viva. Please, Have a look to 21st Century World and give me your impressions about the canonical line and any other thing. What nation are you interested in?--BIPU (talk) 18:54, March 12, 2014 (UTC)

New map game

Fancy joining this map game?- .Whipsnade (talk) 16:03, May 28, 2014 (UTC)

Forum post

I have left a post at the Senate forums and would like your input because you are one of the wiki's active administrators. Sierraball JustinVuong | Talk | World 02:02, September 17, 2014 (UTC)

whats up my brother its good to see a good american in here with all this commies guys runs around well you keep doing what you doing and jesus loves you Ohbobsaggat (talk) 23:55, December 2, 2014 (UTC) 

CreaTuMundo Wikia

Hi Viva! Whats up man! Please visit my new aspect Wikia! Take look the "Creatumundo Wiki" new aspect.



CreaTuMundo Wikia

Prommote my wikia! PLEASE! We have 1214 articles. Help us to grow!!! In spanis, of course!



Thank you so much for fixing the look of the wiki! :D Wikia's changes were so hideous... Coat of arms of Sierra JustinVuong | Talk | World 16:49, June 14, 2015 (UTC)


Well after you left, we just talked about our personal lives like our ancestry and the like. Not much really lol. Mibbit again? 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 23:10, June 22, 2015 (UTC)

Ahhh, oh well hopefully your relative can fix the problem. We won't do anything too drastic while you're unavailable! Promise <_< 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 04:58, June 23, 2015 (UTC)


Altverse or not, I am still excited to see your new rendition of Huria. Would you still be interested in doing a country in Altverse in the future? 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 02:22, June 26, 2015 (UTC)

Mikaean template/module

What you did with your language was absolutely beautiful--even if the mind behind the coding was somehow else. Much more efficient than loading up each individual image (letter) one at a time. I might do some of that myself next time if I'm in a conlanging spirit haha :D 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 21:45, June 30, 2015 (UTC)

Well I finished here and decided to not include numbers and punctuation marks (that could be for another time). I originally thought to include minuscule versions but this all in all, took more than 4 hours, I decided against it <___< 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 03:09, July 1, 2015 (UTC)
I went ahead and done the code implementing (and it works!) but unfortunately, the template/module apparently cannot load special characters like "Â" or "ẞ" which are direct letters transcribed for Serran. I think that might translate into me having to tone it down to the traditional 26 letters :( 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 04:25, July 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Blob doom

I think since I gave him my second warning after his edits today, he may have not read it yet (may have gone offline). I think when he goes online again tomorrow (different time zones), if the first edit he makes is not towards fixing his articles, you should go forward to blocking him as you said in your warning. I think he should/can, during this grace period (if he comes on), demonstrate that he can cooperate. As you point out, he has shown through his work that he can cooperate at other wikis. A warning alone was one too many so if he still doesn't listen, he should be punished. 55px JustinVuong | Talk | World 22:37, July 20, 2015 (UTC)


I see a contradiction in the whole premise of the ideology: if humans are incapable of governing themselves, then a government made of humans is equally so, even if it is totalitarian. The exception would be if the government was controlled by robots. But if it's controlled by humans, then it is no different than humans governing themselves since it is just humans governing other humans. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 15:23, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

Well, I disagree with the entire premise, but I guess: you'd have to include everyone who's educated and otherwise qualified in the governing class, because otherwise: how do you decide who of those will be the leaders. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:53, July 26, 2015 (UTC)

RE: Russian language

In response to your first point, likewise. As for your second question - well, that depends on your goal, but I will say that it is highly preferable that you roll your R's. If you do not roll the R, then you'll stand out as a foreigner (although if you are black then you would stand out either way, since there are not many black people in Russia, especially outside of Moscow). People will probably still understand what you say if you do not roll the R, but it will sound strange and some people may find it funny. So it is highly preferable that you do roll the R, but not exactly necessary for communication since people will still, most likely, understand what you're trying to say. Also, if you do roll it, you'll be viewed more favorably among other Russians for putting a lot of effort into learning the language. –Alexander 22:19, August 11, 2015 (UTC)

Well, in the West, accounts of attacks by racists may be over exaggerated for political purposes. You'll probably be safe if you did go, generally such incidents do not happen often, and there are a considerable number of non-white people in Russia either as students or migrants. Also, many universities in Russia offer Russian language and literature courses for foreigners. –Alexander 22:50, August 11, 2015 (UTC)


I've been fine. How about you? -Seiga

Re: Uh...

No. That was just a proposal, later rejected (and I can see why). Is that fine to you? Agent001 18:08, September 12, 2015 (UTC)

Oh, well. I should have added that it was a proposal. :/ --Agent001 08:25, September 13, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Questions

I have always winged out my articles and although I often look at how other articles are written and incorporate elements of those articles I researched into my articles. I'll be frank with you, until last week, I was in a writer's block spell myself. Juggling between school and writing non-Conworld material with the wiki has been a hassle.

Honestly, the way to overcome writer's block, is to work on different topic of your particular country or to revisit unfinished or unpolished articles. I often go back and see if there are any articles that are in need of work and create new ones whenever necessary. What often happens though is that you find yourself spread too thin which is just as bad as not having any work done (Korea and South Vietnam are prime examples of neglected works of mines that need working on). I've always been more focused on producing quality over quantity though, and if I'm committed, I often stay dedicated to one article before branching out to others.

Inserting minor edits into other articles can break the monotony but ultimately, it's commitment, dedication, and enthusiasm for the content you're working on. You said you have the desire to work, so all you need to do is channel it. Find a particular aspect of your nation(s) you'd like to really work on and stick with it. From there, you'll see bit-by-bit, your interest will grow as you see your articles grow and branch out. I only suggest that you save an edit every paragraph or two--writing a page of text can easily burn you out. I find watching my article grow increment, by increment only encourages me to write more because it's the progress and journey that I find exciting. That probably explains why I prefer each "edit" to be no more than 2,000 bits (usually averages around 300-500 really) at most but culumulatively, at the end of the day, it results in about 4,000-20,000 bits a day per article.

The reason why Sierra has been so successful is because I identify so closely with it (because I live in it), and that alone has fueled my desire to work on it. You truly do need to feel and embrace the nation(s) you're working on, otherwise they'll end up flat and lose your interest relatively quickly. I haven't worked on Korea lately because of Sierra but I still enjoyed working on it. South Vietnam and Mexico are better examples of where one had the interest, but lost it. Writing the history of South Vietnam has stumped me, and I felt that the article was becoming a bit generic and limited (basically a real-life South Korea clone) and Mexico--well, even though it had a fascist government, there was never a really drive or "click" with Mexico to write much of it (it's a former country in Altverse now anyways). For Sierra, when I glossed over its history, I realized how boring it was and too closely tied to America's. I have begun reinventing its history by slowing phasing out the old and inserting new history (actually giving the monarchy royal European blood for one)--all of this merely encourages me to write on. I'm planning to have Sierra have a civil war, so you know there's infinite possibilities one could do to put a "spin" to a country that gives it life, flavor, and meaning. Then there are the "fun" articles such as Sierrans or the provinces where you go beyond the conventional "government-history-politics" bunch and delve into the more personal, apolitical aspects of a country. Remember, there's more to a country than its government/politics--and that to me, speaks to me that this is a world you can explore and bring out of.

TL;DR: You need to make your country come down to a personal level and hone in on one particular article/subject one at a time.

I hope this helped, although I think I'm speaking very broadly. Feel free to ask on if you need more help. Some time this week, when I have more time, we can go on wiki chat/Mibbit to discuss more about this. Star Butterfly (pixelated) centrist16 | Talk | World 04:27, September 16, 2015 (UTC)


I'm sorry, I had to comment again. I will not comment on that thread (or blog or whatever) again, even if you respond. I apologize for responding again. Sometimes i cannot help myself. But I promise I will drop it and move on.AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield (talk) 22:48, September 28, 2015 (UTC)

I won't even read it for my own good. I'll probably pop a blood vessel. XD AlbertWeskerpwnsChrisRedfield (talk) 17:44, October 1, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Custom script

It'd be awesome if you would make a custom script for Lurberan. Lurberan is a syllabic language (at the moment) as seen here: Lurberan alphabet (non transparent), so if you could make each syllable correspond to a character, for example 'pe' = Pe (Lurberan), that'd be great :)

ChibiHarunaSmall Bowwow | Talk | Lurberas 03:24, October 5, 2015 (UTC)

That is awesome. Thanks a lot :)

ChibiHarunaSmall Bowwow | Talk | Lurberas 08:22, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re:Join the collective

No, I am not really interested. Typically creating an entirely new planet requires creating tedious intricacies that I do not want to enter into, such as small towns or small features of government, which, while the may seem insignificant in real life, add to the overall complexity of the current world we live in. Creating an entirely new world is something I don't really have the time for at the moment either. I am also generally uneasy to join projects with wayfaring users who pop up every so often and then leave for long periods of time, such as, for example, some of the members who are active right now, but in say two weeks, will disappear into oblivion for months. I would like to say that I have faith that won't happen, but this wiki's history proves that it rarely captures people that well.

So, tldr, no thank you. I might look into it more once it gets off the ground, but for now, I don't really feel like it. (ᵒᴥᵒ) MineCraftian (Talk) (ᵒᴥᵒ) 22:34, October 6, 2015 (UTC)

Re:New Horizons

Certainly either an Iranian/Shia or Arab/Sunni state would interest me (possibly an autocracy/dominant party state/theocracy). I'm also interested obviously in doing a British themed state (probably slanted towards One Nation Conservatism). Either of those three themes would be most likely.Cheers The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions 21:43, October 9, 2015 (UTC)


Mars colony

Simplified scheme of the colony on Mars.

I've been thinking ... Instead of Secundus, why not colonize Mars? It is much more realistic! We develop the story as follows:
- The first human missions to the Red Planet to begin by 2030;
- All missions leave equipment for future missions and for future colony;
- The colony is partially built when the first settlers arrive, they begin to arrive around 2075 or 2100;
- The settlers complement and expand the colony, and in the process of building and expanding the ties between them are strengthened to the point of abdicating their Terran nationalities, thanks to the commitment and dedicated effort of the settlers, and to the need for survival in a hostile environment;
- The colony prospers and grows;
- And the colony declares independence around 2100 or 2150.

Our story begins here. We are about 10,000 or 50,000 settlers (the exact number can and should be discussed, but I do not think that should be a very large number) living in an enclosed habitat in a hostile world, completely dependent on technology, and we just declare independence from Earth. What will happen?

Well, each participant will be responsible for a sector (black dots in the scheme above), and each sector will haven't a nationality, although the colony was made divided in sector because of it (but as nationalities were abdicated ... Anyway, culture and religion does not disappear from night to day, is not it? What happens in each sector because of these differences, especially in a closed environment?). The black rectangle is the spaceport and the two larger structures can be farms and administrative centers. The scheme is very simple, but it's a good starting point. All of It be open to discussions.

So, what do you think? - Cunha 02:28, october 15, 2015 (UTC)

I'm glad you enjoyed it, and I hope others Also enjoy it. Although Secundus is going very well so far.
I suggest you talk to them, after all you know them better than me know them. - Cunha 03:12, october 15, 2015 (UTC)


Hey Viva. I was wondering how you created these maps here and how you made the gray png version.

ChibiHarunaSmall Bowwow | Talk | Lurberas 02:29, November 8, 2015 (UTC)

Re: Dirigism

I've read over Dirigism before and it's very well written and I can tell you've spent a lot of time on it. I'm not quite sure what kind of critique you're looking for that I can offer other than critiques of the ideology itself, and even then I would just end up trying to "convert" you to my ideology. You can join me on the chat if you want so we discuss it more in depth than we can jumping between talk pages.

If I'm not allowed to hate, then neither are you.

Who said you weren't allowed to hate?

5323047Crop Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 06:19, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

I can't really pass judgement until it's complete, now, can I? Woogers - talk (Flag of New AngliaFlag of IvaliceFlag of the East Asian FederationFlag of Metaria) 00:34, January 8, 2016 (UTC)


After thinking about it for some time, I must sincerely apologize when I say I've decided it would be my preference to work on Imperium World alone, as the visions I have for it are not compatible with a mutual collaboration, I've come to realize. However, I would be very happy to work with you on Desperatio or perhaps a third, mutually created, project.

5323047Crop Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 13:46, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

I just realised you had Pablo Escobar as your avatar

Haha, Narcos is a great show. 5323047Crop Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 15:46, December 5, 2015 (UTC)

Alphabet help

I was wondering if you could help me with Isokyria's alphabet? I'm essentially looking for a way to convert Latin letters to Runes, for example {{Isokyarian|f}} = ᚠ. Thanks in advance 😊

5323047Crop Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 06:20, December 16, 2015 (UTC)

No prob. Thanks a lot :) 5323047Crop Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 13:28, December 17, 2015 (UTC)
It can be found here and here.

5323047Crop Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 12:25, December 19, 2015 (UTC)

Ah, that's shame. Thanks anyway :>

Re:Critique on "Dirigism: A Thesis On Humanity's Future"

The first critique I would have with Dirigism is that it shares the same name as the French economic policy of Dirigisme (which means "to direct" and is sometimes referred to as dirigism), meaning it sounds a little lazy as a name.

The main "problem" you could say about Dirigism is that it is not ideologically different to fascist movements, especially in approach to the concept of democracy and economics. The only real difference is that I don't see where the appeal comes from - fascism appeals to irredentist/etho/populist nationalism which promises to make a nation "glorious" - without this nationalism fascism essentially presents a reactionary dictatorship which isn't very appealing, which is what Dirigism is at the moment. The only comparison would be monarchism, but even that normally contains nationalist undertones.

Dirigism also demeans the youth - a huge mistake as most movements that sought to change society appealed somewhat to youth's and used young people as the tool to implement their ideology - the Cultural Revolution is by far the best example of this, but also look at the effect of the youth in toppling the Shah and bringing the Islamists to power in Iran or the focus on the youth in Nazi Germany both of the latter two being largely reactionary conservative regimes.

So yeah, overall I would say Dirigism just doesn't have much appeal. It presents itself similar to forms of fascism (authoritarian governance with a mixed economy, social conservatism and racism/anti-semetism) but doesn't emphasise any form of nationalism which gives fascism its populist streak nor appeal to impressionable young people. Also the general prose is too casual in some parts - it seems sloppy compared to most political writings. --Cheers The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions 00:40, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

"The laws of the land have long been bastardized by special interest groups such as Jews" That right there is a textbook example of the anti-semetic assertion that Jews control the banks/government/media/etc - a plank of the Nazi's was that Jews controlled the German government and thus had to be removed from that position. The use of the word "bastardized" especially harkens back to rhetoric used by anti-Semitic movements in early 20th century Europe. --Cheers The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions 01:10, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Whether Jews are a race or a religious group is a multi-layered debate which I'm not going to touch with an hundred foot pole (in most definitions Jews are listed as ethnoreligious). The Nazi's said liberals and socialists controlled the government as well, not to mention the fact that they hated numerous groups other then Jews (Slavs, leftists of any stripe, gypsies, homosexuals, disabled peoples and liberals were all to be wiped out according to Nazi doctrine).

Dirgism also states it isn't fascist because its not supportive of genocide of Jews. This is somewhat of a misrepresentation of fascism which is a vague obscure ideology and has many sub-branches. The founder of fascism, Mussolini, was not really an anti-Semite, stating that as Jews had lived in Italy for centuries they were Italians and so did not need to be persecuted (he adopted anti-Semitic policies to appease Germany in the late 1930's). Shōwa Japan, commonly regarded as fascist until 1945, actually resisted Nazi efforts to adopt Anti-Semitic policies and was considered a safe haven for Jews during the Holocaust. Anti-Semitism only became associated with fascism proper when Hitler and the Nazi's entered the scene in 1932. So even if Dirgism didn't advocate for the genocide of Jews it would still be essentially a fascist movement. --Cheers The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions 01:30, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Critique of Dirigism

Whoa! Thanks for reminding me. I completely forgot about your message as the day I got it, I was on mobile and at school. I'll get around to it some time this weekend. Juvia Lockser Chibi centrist16 | Talk | World 05:53, January 9, 2016 (UTC)

As promised, I have read the essay in its entirety (all that was written out that is). My initial thoughts were that Dirigism seems to be very similar to fascism although instead of uniting around nationalism, Dirigism seems to stem from the inherent need for order and seeks to instill a cohesive set of principles under a paternal figure. It is interesting how in Dirigism, it makes it very clear that there is hierarchy and I think you ought to expand more as to why there needs to be order and hierarchy.
You've touched upon how democracy is bad, very much in part to the ignorance of the majoritarian populists, but I believe it should explain more on the quintessential faults and flaws of democracy rather than a few real world examples. In addition, it seems that there is still a sense of individual "rights" (for instance, you decried the fact that many Americans willingly yielded their basic liberties for security through the Iraq War and Patriot Act, this, which appears to be an implication of rights that should have not been forfeited) although I think you should make it clearer and explicit as to what individuals retain (and their worth and purpose) within the Dirigist structure.
Since the essay is unfinished, I am aware that you have yet to expand upon how a Dirigist state is (or should be) organized so I will just have to wait until then. Otherwise, all I can say is that you should go back and expand a bit more on your arguments, as well as weave in a more explicit central core message, emphasizing how without direction, humanity is hopeless and prone to self-destructive acts. It was an interesting read however, and I appreciate your asking for my thoughts on it! :) Juvia Lockser Chibi centrist16 | Talk | World 04:20, January 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re:New Script

Sure, I can make you a script. How many characters do you need? DrewMillerFlair Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 00:19, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

Here you go: Viva&#039;s script. I think it looks more like something the Dali Lama would use rather than the Pope haha. But I think it captures that calligraphy vibe you're looking for. I can break them up into separate files if you want unless you'd rather do that yourself. If you need any other changes, just let me know. DrewMillerFlair Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 00:58, January 11, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Congrats

Unfortunately Feng Huiyin wil never get a position of power thanks to nepotism and gerrymandering. That said she does resemble China's Taiwan's new president. --Cheers The Road to Hell is paved with good intentions 11:38, January 17, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Sierran monarchs

I always did suspect there was off with the naming conventions of those articles. Glad I finally got the nudge to get on with it. Thanks for reminding me! :) Juvia Lockser Chibi centrist16 | Talk | World |Flag of Conworlds Quality Control 05:27, February 3, 2016 (UTC)


Go to Althist chat please :c ~Candy


If you have a Skype account and so inclined to share its contact information, you are hereby officially invited to join the Conworld Fam on Skype which includes myself, Pelicary, Fizzyflapjack, Dog of War, and Bowwow! Juvia Lockser Chibi centrist16 | Talk | World |Flag of Conworlds Quality Control 06:28, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Ah, that's a shame. Well just know if you do get one (and it's relatively easy to set up one), know you are welcome. We use it as our primary source of communication and collaboration amongst each other. Juvia Lockser Chibi centrist16 | Talk | World |Flag of Conworlds Quality Control 06:32, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Just leave you skype information in Justins talkpage, I'll add you. Horned King Aurora 06:41, February 8, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Vote

Voted. Agent001 06:02, March 14, 2016 (UTC)

You're back!

Do you like Donald Trump?

Bowwow | Talk | new project coming soon 10:56, June 23, 2016 (UTC)

Administrative Reconstruction

Hey Viva! 

It has come to my attention, that the quality of this administration has become insufficient. It has become neglected, and the content has continued to decline. While I'm supportive of new content and the inclusion of new editors, such development should be done appropriately. Because of the content that is presented on our activity page, I believe, continuously discourages quality editors from entering the community. Our wiki has become fractured, and collaboration is almost impossible because most editors are unresponsive.

I believe that the current admins, all 13, should step down and reorganize. Truly dedicated editors should be in this position so that they may coordinate a cohesive community that provides responsible guidelines for new editors. I remember when I was new to this community, my content was sub par but due to the guiding hand of the community and actively wanting to collaborate with other editors I developed. Conworlds is not what it used to be, and a breath of fresh air needs to come without intrusion from the previous, now inactive, administration.

Thank you. --Horned King Aurora 22:12, July 7, 2016 (UTC)

Well, the main reason I was opposing your changes (I actually don't dislike Vector any more than Monobook) was this problem with the gradient between the tabs at the tops of pages: File:Vector problem.png (the unsightly grey at the top of the lines between tabs). However, I can't find a problem in your code that is causing it. Could you try to fix it? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:45, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

Also, the text in the tabs ought to be enlarged slightly for maximum Vector-ness. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 18:46, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

I tried another browser and it is working normally there but it is really annoying on my normal browser. I wonder if you all could please just use your personal monobook.css's to spare me :P TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 21:27, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

That's only 4 users (of which 2 and a half are admins) though. I don't know how to remove code with my personal monobook.css though, only add. TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 23:45, July 9, 2016 (UTC)

I don't see any change yet. Could you ask on Central for me? TimeMaster (talkcontribs) 00:20, July 10, 2016 (UTC)

Re: Canaan

Canaan is actually a placeholder country created by me as the homeland for the Canaanites though I haven't gotten to the page yet. Rosalina icon centrist16 | Talk | World | Flag of Conworlds Quality Control | Conworlds Police badge (Centrist16) | Skype icon 02:03, December 4, 2016 (UTC)

Infobox ccountry

Hey Viva, I undid your edit as the new version of the template works fine. If you were worried about the "Script error" on it, as the documentation reads, the template doesn't function on the meta-page itself, but works fine everywhere else (where it matters). The old version cannot load the flag/coat of arms section properly and causes lag on larger articles (such as Sierra). Rosalina icon centrist16 | Talk | Conworlds Police badge (Centrist16) | Discord icon 00:53, February 9, 2017 (UTC)

So, here are the regions I decided to use. Green is Outer Assai, yellow is The Badlands, blue is Kadar Merivol (Kadar would be a generic term for any land inhabited by the Kai (Ka), Marivol is their word for the Meridian Ocean), 
Grand Balisar Regions
pink is The Old Colonies, purple is Greater Balisar, red is the Borderlands, teal is Southern Balisar, and cyan is Snowfall. AWpCR (talk) 20:32, February 13, 2018 (UTC)

Re: Sup

Hey Viva! I'm fine, and you? Cunha 17:34, May 29, 2018 (UTC)

Grand Balisar on Project Genesis

I've been super busy with work and a new girlfriend. I would love to continue, I'll try to be more active. I would, however, like to make a small request. I'll ask you on Discord.

Edit: Although, given how busy I've been, it would probably be best if I don't continue on Project Genesis. Wouldn't want to hold the project back.

AWpCR (talk) 19:02, December 7, 2018 (UTC)

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